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O\T: Replacement Windows

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grubber

03-11-2005 15:44:33




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Was looking at getting some replacement windows and I can pin down the cost of the materials but have no idea on labor cost. Do any of you have a clue as to what I can expect to pay for instalation per window. Thanks in advance, you guys know it all.




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Ryan - WI

03-12-2005 16:59:21




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
I work in construction with my father. When we estimate them we figure $50 a window. Some are pretty easy but usually at least one per job makes us really earn our money. If the house is old enough to need replacement windows it is old enough to make installation of some of them a real PITA. If the windows are from the seventies to early eighties they are the worst ones to try to put replacements in.

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Galen

03-12-2005 07:59:51




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
One more thing - GET Low E GLASS!! You WILL notice the difference! Argon is another option, but it is not really worth the extra cost.



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Mark - IN.

03-12-2005 06:29:25




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
When owned a home in Illinois, there was a place in Rockdale called ROW Window that made them for me much cheaper pound for pound than off the shelf at Menards or Home Depot, and I put them in myslef.

One thing I almost blew was insulating around them. Got the great idea of using spray foam (Great Stuff) and sealed around the inside before trimming out. Gotta be careful with that stuff. Comes in different expansions (1x, 2x, 3x). I used 1x and got by. Have heard stories where people do that, then expands and pushes the window frames inward so can't either open, or close the windows - which ever position you left them in as it dried and expanded. I didn't think about that until after did it. Worked out ok for me. Be careful with that stuff if use it.

Mark

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Galen

03-12-2005 06:50:38




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to Mark - IN., 03-12-2005 06:29:25  
Like he said BE VERY CAREFUL WITH FOAM. Even "Non-expanding" foam expands. Most companies do not recommend it's use, but would prefer you use batt insulation.



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lucasss

03-13-2005 06:16:21




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to Galen, 03-12-2005 06:50:38  
ive never seen foam distort anything with its expansion.used it on windows too and many other things. have seen it ooz out ,but never distort anything as it cures and expands. lucas



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Galen

03-13-2005 07:33:25




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to lucasss, 03-13-2005 06:16:21  
Being that I inspect windows for warranty concerns, I could cite LITERALLY THOUSANDS of examples of expanding foam bowing a window or door (wood, metal or vinyl). The bottom line is: you may get lucky but DON'T USE IT.



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lucasss

03-13-2005 17:52:42




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to Galen, 03-13-2005 07:33:25  

ok galen, ill be carefull with that stuff. i like to use fiberglass insulation but started useing foam when i ran out of glass.my buddy is a fireman and he hatesfoam because its very flamable, said it causes lots of fires when used around an electrical box. lucas



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Mark - IN.

03-12-2005 21:01:20




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to Galen, 03-12-2005 06:50:38  
Yep, that's what I heard. Thing is, didn't hear it until after I did it. Than raced home expecting the worst, but came out ok. Maybe I got lucky because I knew it expanded and didn't use much because I didn't want a mess. Maybe that's the only thing that saved me. But it did come out well and sealed them. I will concede that there are times when Great Stuff isn't necessarily great stuff.

Mark



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jdemaris

03-12-2005 06:28:10




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
In an ideal situation where the old windows are square, you can do a good job in less than an hour per window. Sometimes less then half and hour. Time gets consumed when replacing windows in a house that has sunk and the old windows no longer have 90 degree corners. Takes some finesse to put a perfectly square window into a non-square hole. So, you wind up doing some shimming and extra time making trim to finish the job. Years ago, I installed them as a sub-contractor and got paid $20 apiece (late 1960s). Some took 15 minutes, and some took two hours.

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Galen

03-12-2005 06:22:23




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
Any old carpenter can install windows, but to do it RIGHT takes someone with know-how as to how it is properly done. Most of the window companies are re-structering their warranties and holding to stricter installation guidelines. Meaning - if it isn't properly installed, you may find it effects your warranty. Are you going with wood or vinyl? What area are you in? Single Hung or Double Hung or Casement? Call a nearby WINDOW INSTALLER, not a frame carpenter. The going rates are about $45 - $50 an hour, $85 - $100 per window. Most companies will be experienced enough to be able to esimate time and give you a "lump-sum" bid. Remember: 85% of window problems can be traced back to installation or choosing the wrong window for your home (this is from AAMA - American Architechural Manufactures Association).

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jdemaris

03-12-2005 06:22:10




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
In an ideal situation where the old windows are square, you can do a good job in less than an hour per window. Sometimes less then half and hour. Time gets consumed when replacing windows in a house that has sunk and the old windows no longer have 90 degree corners. Takes some finesse to put a perfectly square window into a non-square hole. So, you wind up doing some shimming and extra time making trim to finish the job. Years ago, I installed them as a sub-contractor and got paid $20 apiece (late 1960s). Some took 15 minutes, and some took two hours.

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dr.sportster

03-12-2005 04:33:24




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
They are not too bad to do.Try doing one then decide if you would want to do the rest.Lots of instructions on computer sites.



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the tractor vet

03-11-2005 21:18:10




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
I have been replacing mine as i can afford them , i have been getting the midrange windows from Lowes with the Low E/ Glass and installing them myself . Now mind ya this OLD HOUSE was built around 1867 and she has BIG windows like 67 inches tall by 30 inches wide and they have been running at 184 bucks a window and it take me about and hour and a half to do one myself . The first one is the hardest and i had a friend that was a carpenter come in and help me with that one since it was a double in and upstairs bed room it was heavy and like i said big 67x60 it took two hours on that one . Ya massure the width in three places and the lenght in two places and if ya think that it is out of square then bisect it take them in and they will build that window for that hole when it comes pull your inside trimthat holds the bottom window in off and take it out then pull the blind stop out ( it prys out thats the long strip of wood that seperates the top from the bottom apice of wood that is about 1/2 to 3/4 thick and about and inch wide ) clean up a bit put down a bead of calk on the top and bottom set the window in and level it up put in 4 to 6 screws that come with it pack in some insulation pu the trim back on and calk the outside all done and does it amke a differance you bet ya. On a nite like tonight i would have been freezen my feet off typen this.

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Butcher

03-11-2005 19:49:00




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
That sounds pretty steep to me. If you are handy at all you can do it urself. Just remember one thing when you buy your windows, Only a rich man can afford cheap windows.



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grubber

03-11-2005 19:33:29




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
My windows are abou 30 yrs old and the company said that I was looking at around $100 per window to install. Does this sound about right?



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MAC,IL

03-12-2005 06:03:32




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 19:33:29  
Sounds a little steep to me, my son has an old sears house on his farm. Several years ago he re-sided it and put the windows in him self and it was not all that bad, just time consuming. But when you DIY, make sure the measurements are right before ordering them. Most places will work with you on measurements.



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MAC,IL

03-11-2005 17:13:53




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
Around here, SO. Ill. Good non union carpenters get 15 bucks an hour. It seems I fair out better by having something done by the job.



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Charles (in GA)

03-11-2005 17:09:14




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to grubber, 03-11-2005 15:44:33  
Is this in a very old house? I mean like 75+ years old? In a house like this you probably should consider the replacement windows where you remove the sashes and the new window just fits right into the old frame. They have to be individually measured, to insure a fit, (many windows that look alike are not) and they work well.

A neighbor had this done to a 100+ year old house and you wouldn't believe the difference in temperature inside (she heats with firewood in a insert). This was a large house and the windows were installed and cauked, etc. in two days. She now plans to sell the old sashes (they are quite in demand for decorating in restruants, etc.

Charles

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lucasss

03-12-2005 07:39:03




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 Re: O\T: Replacement Windows in reply to Charles (in GA), 03-11-2005 17:09:14  
i have several rental properties ive owned for over 20 years. i put windows in them all ,including my 100year old home. i reccomend window world chain. for 189.00 they will furnish and instal 2 pane window with welded construction. i got low e glass for 30.00 more per window for my home,in your own home low e glass is worth it. i couldnt buy the windows of that quality for that anywhere. lucas

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