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Dog's Friend

03-07-2005 11:31:10

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Getting fed up with Corporate America. Been a nine to fiver (actually more like a 7:00 to 7:00er) for way too long. With too little to show for it. Saw a blurb about Snap-on tool franchises. Anyone familiar with what it takes to get into one? What kind of support their dealers get? Stuff to watch out for? What sort of pitfalls there are? I appreciate your assistance.

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Davis In SC

03-08-2005 18:38:11

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

I have always wondered how the tool truck salesmen ever collect on the tools they finance... There are so many people & companies out there that will not pay... Being in your own business is not always as good as one would think. I am sick & tired of spending half of my time trying to collect what is owed to our shop. Big corporations are the worst, they look for any excuse not to pay on time , or even pay at all, for that matter. You might want to really think it through, before you leave the security & benefits of a job.

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Frank M.

03-08-2005 18:25:16

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

I looked into it seriously a few years ago. I don't remember the numbers, but, I couldn't see any way I'd ever be able to sell enough to pay for their franchise fee and the new truck they'd make you buy. Glad I passed it up.

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Nolan

03-08-2005 03:26:32

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

Had a friend that did it. Almost an identical match to the story T-bone told about his friend.

But even after all that, are you a salesman? If you're not, this isn't the job for you.

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Midwest redneck

03-08-2005 02:16:22

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

You will lose your *ss. I have heard and seen where a guy in his 50's (maybe same boat as your in) says, "hey I get to drive around and sell tools and stuff and meet new folks and setup new accounts." Let me tell ya, 18 years ago I was a kid working at a shop and the Mac tool sales guy had several guys in the shop for hundreds of dollars in tools that they really could not (or would not ever pay for) Mechanics making $14/hour these days dont give a rip about you. The only way to make money in that business is to be Mac tools or Snapon tools and you are the one making the tools, and selling them to the drivers. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, THE BEST ADVICE I COULD EVER GIVE HERE, DONT DO IT. Now watch some guy on the site come out prove me wrong.

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leland

03-08-2005 00:34:39

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

You would be better off getting a job as an over the road driver at least this way you get paid for all the driving you do.

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dr.sportster

03-08-2005 05:19:03

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to leland, 03-08-2005 00:34:39

I agree with Leland .Plenty of containers to be picked up at our nations ports.They supply the proper size chassis.Now if oil prices would stabilize.

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leland

03-08-2005 07:17:36

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to dr.sportster, 03-08-2005 05:19:03

DR EVIL drive some elses for a year or 2 then buy your own after you get to know some people ,and you could easily make more than any snap on driver. And the best part about owning your own is when you get some where you want to go you can shut tracter down rent a room and a car and explore the place.

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msb

03-07-2005 21:08:43

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

Are you cut out for a salesman's job? Can you handle a lot of rejection and criticism of your merchandise? You better be able to handle it .You will get a lot of it.How do you feel about selling tools that you know the guy can't afford? Can you do it and still sleep at night?You had better be able to.If you can answer yes to the above quesations and are the type of person who has a hard time making up his own mind then you can probably make a go of it.Personality profile studies will tell you that it is this kind of personality that makes the best salesmen.

Before I would make that kind of investment,I would do a Meyers/Briggs test or similar study of my personality.I haave done a couple and I know I am not a salesman at heart.

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buickanddeere

03-07-2005 20:46:35

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

You are in a dangerous place in your life.You have assets but need more to retire and you are bored doing you job for 20 years. I'm glad to see you asking first before leaping. Some make a success on their own but most don't. The common thing is most of your relatives and people you thought were your friends will call you crazy. Because they are scared and you are less scared and more ambitious than them. Can you start some weekend or evening business? I tried my own business but discovered I have about 10% people skills on a good day but knew everything about the product, marketing etc. Turns out a successful business is 90% people skills and 10 % product.

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big fred

03-07-2005 17:12:02

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

One of the downsides showed itself in this area bout a year or two ago. It was MAC, not Snap-on, but the problem is the same. You got a truck full of expensive easy to fence tools, with not a heck of a lot of security. Feller pulls you over alongside the road, shoots you dead, takes your tools and sells them to support his drug habit, puts your body in the truck, drives it away from the crime scene and torches it to cover up the evidence.

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dail

03-07-2005 16:23:17

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

get ready to work 24 hours a day...with a corporate job, you can come home and ldo whatever..you leave work at work. with a business, you come home and you have to worry about tomorrow.

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superwrench

03-07-2005 15:12:13

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

Just say NO!! I see an increasing number of tool truck dealers that fall by the wayside. I would look closely at the route you'll get, not just to see if a corporate rep is keeping it warm by financing the moon at $10 a week to techs that may not be around in three months but, also to size up your competition. I have seen one tool truck brand dominate the others in my area while the others faded away. Techs depend on tool trucks because we often can't find certain items anywhere else but, I have seen techs abuse tool dealers by not paying in a timely manner or skipping out. I wouldn't want the headaches associated with a tool truck.

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BobR

03-07-2005 14:10:14

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

The main problem here that Snap-On is a corporation themselves-could be tricky.

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dr.sportster

03-07-2005 14:08:51

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

It really will depend on the route.Several years back there was a class action suit by a group of drivers/salesman against the company.Maybe you could research and find out what that was all about.On the other hand I was good for about $6000 a year according to my wife because I was afraid to add up all my receipts.Of couse a couple bus companies and large tool users and they make alot.Location and route.In a bad economy its hard to impress people with the latest tools.Now if we could only stop eating we would all be rich.

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T_Bone

03-07-2005 14:04:18

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Re: Don't Do It !!! in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

Hi DF,

A good friend quit his good paying job to take a Snap-on route because the current driver was getting a divorce.

Well after "training" my friend on a good route in Denver, the driver all of sudden made up with his wife, so no divorce, NO good route open.

Of course this was after he had sold his house to the finance the truck and pay the high up front dealer fees.

So they finally offered him a route in the mountains west of Denver about 90 miles west. That driver was a drunk and had ran off all the business so my friend had to start from scratch.

Ohh yes, he seen a lawyer to break the contract after the first route was jerked out of his hands but the attorney said they had a iron clad contract and could move him to another area at "there" whim and at any time. This was in the fine print section that my friend failed to read.
Of course "there" attorney pointed that clause out to "his" attorney!

He was barely making a living after 3 yrs the last time I talked to him. A State contract had saved him from the big BR (bankrupt).

He finally nailed a job driving a snowplow for the State after 5yrs and had a huge sale on his stocked tools. He never talked about that "good" tool venture again.

T_Bone

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thurlow

03-07-2005 13:13:16

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

Most of the "growth" in the business world is in small business, rather than in the major corporations, as one would assume; however, an unbelievable per cent of them fail (can't quote the figures off the top of my head) in the first year or two. If you've never been your own boss, go for it; everyone should have the experience at least once. Might make the corporate feed a little easier to choke down.

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Mike M

03-07-2005 13:05:37

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

I've seen way too many tool guys come and go. I think that's a hard way to make a living. Get a government job,they get automatic pay raises and great benefits.

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george md

03-07-2005 12:24:24

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

Unless you know it is a really good route,

don't give up your day job . More guys have

gone broke than have done well.

george

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Charles Park

03-07-2005 12:24:13

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Dog's Friend, 03-07-2005 11:31:10

Talk with a the Snap On Route salesman before you do anything. Just a thought. Looked at this myself several years back and declined.

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george md

03-07-2005 12:25:54

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Re: Time for a Change in reply to Charles Park, 03-07-2005 12:24:13

Charles ,

box not here yet

george

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