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Richard Fazio

02-26-2005 17:25:15




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So I picked up a few new toys today. A friend of a friend wanted to get rid of these. I got a clausing 8520 milling machine, and a south bend 10L lathe. Also two small compressors and a real old jack to move the stuff around on. All for free. Oh and a 1 phase motor for the lathe cause it's got a three phase one on there. third party image

I can't wait to pull them off the trailer and see how they work. The lathe looks like it was hardly used. There is no noticable wear on the bed. The milling machine I don't know enough about to know what kind of shape it's in. It looks good though. How did I do?

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dobieone

01-15-2006 19:54:14




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 SB 10L in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
recently bought a SB 10L on factory cabinet,don,t what the "bronze bearings supposed to look like, but it looks to me just a brass bushing? ?
With no shoulders on the ends.
Can somebody help me out?
I am stripping this "thing" completely and can use all the advise I can get.

Thanks



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Rod M1

03-03-2005 19:25:27




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
This will come in handy



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ShepFL

02-27-2005 13:54:52




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
Congrats on the new toys. I have been wanting one of each for some time. I know of 2 lathes sitting but owners won't part with them despite no use. Still saving pennies for the right deal when it shows up. Have fun!



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Richard Fazio

02-27-2005 14:11:04




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to ShepFL, 02-27-2005 13:54:52  
I Have this buddy that says if you can wait you'll always get the deal. If your in a rush your going to pay top dollar. If you can wait long enough you'll get what you want for free like I did. It's the same with tractors and farming equipment or anything for that matter. This guy has a lot of money but he loves the deal. I think he's right, bide your time and you'll find that great deal on anything.

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L.C.Grey

02-27-2005 06:29:59




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
I spent quite a few hours on a little lathe just like that one. I remeber the old flat belt there you can see with the cover open. Nice little machines.



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dr.sportster

02-27-2005 05:21:04




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
Now you going to need an MSC catalog {1800-645-7270]for things youll use.Probably could use a Linsey books catalog also.[lost that dont have address]If your putting em in the basement ask the lumber yard for the most warped boards to bolt them to so it will be easier to slide the whole lathe .To get a mill in your basement you must take of the motor and eliminate top heavy weight.I think I could make you a diagram for the single phase drum switch on the lathe.Save the 3 phase motor for future use as a phase converter.It would probably interest you to subcribe to HOME SHOP MACHINST mag also.Even just for the ads.Check scrap metal yards for aluminum billet cheaply priced.You are now capable of making parts.Unbelievable score of two most excellent machines.Very exciting.May you have fun for many years .Good luck.

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CR

03-02-2005 10:00:14




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to dr.sportster, 02-27-2005 05:21:04  
Richard,

The address for Lindsey books is www.lindsaybks.com

They have a lot of books covering the use of your lathe and milling machine.

Also here is a site for Home Shop Machinist. Just copy the following line into your address bar and hit enter. >Link

I>Link would recommend a subscription to both Home Shop Machinist and Machinist's Workshop. Both are pretty neat.

CR

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Richard Fazio

02-27-2005 06:55:20




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to dr.sportster, 02-27-2005 05:21:04  
Dr.Sportster thanks for the info. MSC is one town away from me here on Long Island. Never knew they existed. The machines are going up to my weekend place upstate New York. I have a big barn I put up with my shop in it. I have plenty of room there and intend to retire there in a few.



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dr.sportster

02-27-2005 12:50:07




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-27-2005 06:55:20  
Richard ,dont thank me [Im the dummy of the group]Thank the other guys.Check out the site Mike Burdick posted [thats real good].Come back any time with a question and these guys will help you.Lots of good used tooling and accesories out there to be found at various sales.Like the guys said watch your saftey basics[loose clothing,etc.] and again good luck.



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Davis In SC

02-26-2005 20:40:30




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
Nice Machines !!!! Both look to be in good shape... If you are not familiar with the operation of machine tools, my advice is to seek out an experienced machinist to get you started. He/she can teach you a lot in an hour or 2... Safety comes first. Most machinists are glad to show someone the safe way to operate machines... They are safe , if you follow a few rules along with a good dose of common sense. Hope you enjoy them...

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wdtom

02-26-2005 18:49:51




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
You got the deal of a lifetime!! No question about it. Now to get going, get a few books on lathes and milling machines form Lindsay Publications. Especially "How To Run A Lathe" an old Southbend publication. They have some basic milling machine books too if you read the catalog description you can find them. Lindsay books are not expensive and are reprints of old books, some from about the time your machines were made.

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Mike Burdick

02-26-2005 18:40:10




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
Richard,

What a deal! Friend of a friend, huh....

Both of those are great machines, so if you have to put a few bucks into them to get them running perfect don"t hesitate. That guy gave you about $3,000.00.

...Some guys have all the luck!



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DL

02-26-2005 18:36:24




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
Hey Rich, Congrats!!! That was definitely a score! I teach a machine tool class at the local community college & we have a couple of old south bend lathes remaining... a few years ago they replaced the rest of them with much newer machines... against my recommendations. The newer machines are falling apart, while the old southbends are still chugging along. We also have some older clausing lathes... they are great machines... would expect their mills to be good as well!
regards, DL

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Richard Fazio

02-26-2005 18:40:11




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to DL, 02-26-2005 18:36:24  
I had never heard of clausing. The machine does look nice though. I've never used a milling machine. how do you recomend I get started learning how to use it?



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Roger P.

02-26-2005 20:00:11




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 18:40:11  
The #1 issue with milling is avoiding "climb milling", which is feeding the material in the same direction that the cutting teeth are travelling when they contact the work. The teeth will dig in and pull the work forward violently (it is taking up the backlash in the threads of the feed screw), probably breaking the bit. I pulled a vise right out of the bed of a mill once (once!) doing this. You can get milling machines specially designed for climb milling, and they are more efficient, but most are not. Other than that, speeds and feeds are readily calculated. Most people I knwo sems to use their own judgement after awhile though.

You got one heck of a deal there. Congratulations.

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Mike Burdick

02-26-2005 18:59:34




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 18:40:11  
Richard,

To get started, the following link is to the "U.S. Army's "Fundamentals of Machine Tools" manual. Lots of information.



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TimV

02-26-2005 18:53:49




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 18:40:11  
Richard: Clausing is a good name in machine tools--you"ve got a couple of excellent old soldiers there! I don"t know what you got for tooling with the mill, but if you have any end mills with the lathe, just chuck one up a decent-size on (1" or so) and start cutting. Make sure your work is clamped down tight, and start with very light, slow cuts--a couple of thousandths at first. Your mill will tell you when it"s overloaded--it will buck, chatter, and grumble at you. There are plenty of online resources for milling and metalworking in general--if you want, I can dig through my bookmarks and post a couple.

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kraigWY

02-26-2005 17:34:14




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 Re: New Tools (Picture) in reply to Richard Fazio, 02-26-2005 17:25:15  
Looks like you've gotten a real find. Get them set up and you're gonna have some fun.

Couldn't get by w/out my lathe and milling machine.



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