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HAND WATER PUMP

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JIMLLL

02-24-2005 09:12:20




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Does anyone have a website for the large hand operated, cast iron water pumps as seen in parks? I am interested in purchasing one.
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Galen

02-25-2005 19:19:39




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to JIMLLL, 02-24-2005 09:12:20  
We bought a couple of old "windmill pumps" at auction for $10 each and put them on 100' deep wells. The cylinders we have are deep well, and are at about 60'. Seems to be working fine the past 2 years.



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jdemaris

02-24-2005 20:24:30




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to JIMLLL, 02-24-2005 09:12:20  
I can give you lots of sources to buy them, but you need to narrow things down a bit. A hand operated pump is only capable of pulling water up about 25 feet due to the laws of physics. This sort of pump is usually referred to a a pitcher pump. You can buy Chinese knockoffs right now from Harbor Freight for $20 apiece. I bought a "high-quality" pump for Lehmans for $400 and it was crap - I had to return it. The $20 Harbor Freight pump, however, works great. In fact, I bought four of them - have one in our house and one at my cabin in the Adirondacks. The rest I'm saving for parts. Both the wells are 200' deep, but the water level is only 15' down. If the water lever was any lower, I'd have to install a deep well hand pump. Anyway, it makes a difference what you want the pump for. As I said, an above ground pump can only pull from 25 feet down - and that's a stretch. In reality, it's good for about 15 feet. The pumps you've seen, if in deep wells, only have the pump handle and linkage above ground, but the actually pump is sunk in the well. They are costly. So, you choice depends on what you want if for - ornamental, or actually pumping water - and if the latter - how deep, do you want it freeze proof, do you want it to look old-fashioned, and how much output do you need? Hand pumps in deep wells are still used all over the world where electricity is not available. You can also buy one to stick in a conventional driven well in addition to the submersible electric pump as a backup. I bought a PVC deepwell pump to use in my Adirondacks camp if the water level gets lower. It is supposed to be good down to 150' and there are other models that will go deeper. I did not opt for a more expensive and more historic looking cast-iron pump because it costs a lot more and I figured it might get stolen. I don't know what you want, but here are a few links:
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http://www.2kstore.com/clarke/clarke4.htm

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Jimlll

02-25-2005 08:54:29




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to jdemaris, 02-24-2005 20:24:30  
Thanks for the information. I appreciate the your taking the time to explain.



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

02-24-2005 19:27:36




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to JIMLLL, 02-24-2005 09:12:20  
If you are from an area where it freezes, a suggestion:

My dad and a crafty old plumber friend put a pump into the well at the farm. They put a foot valve well down in the well, then drilled a hole in the pipe big enough to let the top part of the assembly drain down when the pump was left with the handle up. While it costs some efficiency, the hole means the pump never freezes up, yet can produce water in winter, if needed.

The downside? It's very hard to pump. It's much easier to fix the generator than to get water out of that thing.

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Scott Green

02-26-2005 04:37:46




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 02-24-2005 19:27:36  
Here's what my experience has been with hand pumps. Like others have said , pitcher pump , and deep well pumps are two different animals. Pitcher pump pulls water up out of shallow wells(Approx: 30 feet or less). Deep well hand pump has just handle above ground. The water pipe attaches to the bottom of the pump , and continues down , a foot or two below the water surface. A cylinder is attached at the end of the water pipe. The pump handle is connected to the cylinder with a rod , which travels through the center of the water pipe. You are actually operating the cylinder , which is below water level , pushing the water up out of the well. The deeper you go in the well , the narrower your cylinder will want to be. Reason being: Narrow cylinder pumps less volume per stroke of pump handle , making it easyer to pump. The deeper you go , the more water you are trying to push up the water pipe with the cylinder. For cold wheather area: drill 3/16" hole in water pipe. This hole will have to be down below frost level. After pumping water , it will drain out the hole. The difference in cost between the pitcher pump set up , and deep well set up is approx: $1,000.00. As you can see , quite a difference. And I'm just talking materials. Also much more work involved it deep well hand pump.

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tim in wi

02-24-2005 15:33:13




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to JIMLLL, 02-24-2005 09:12:20  
try baker mfg in evansville wi have seen many of ther pumps



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caseyc

02-24-2005 10:47:26




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to JIMLLL, 02-24-2005 09:12:20  
how many do you want? there all over the country side around here including my own yard!

casey in SD



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JIMLLL

02-24-2005 13:33:22




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to caseyc, 02-24-2005 10:47:26  
I only need one, with the rod and cylinder that goes in the well.



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caseyc

02-25-2005 11:02:09




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to JIMLLL, 02-24-2005 13:33:22  
where are you located? if your close enough i'd say come on over. i'm in east cental SD.



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JIMLLL

02-26-2005 10:24:18




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to caseyc, 02-25-2005 11:02:09  
I'm in Louisiana, but am retired, if pump is for deep well, with cylinder, and in good useable condition, please advise me of price and I'll consider



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SteveB

02-24-2005 10:01:49




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 Re: HAND WATER PUMP in reply to JIMLLL, 02-24-2005 09:12:20  
TRy Lehman's .com



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