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help! air in well water

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chuckinnc

02-21-2005 14:13:48




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Off topic but maybe theres someone that has a fix. I have a 60 foot well with submersable pump
well under the water line. I get blast of air from the faucets along with water. I cant find a leak and the tank holds good pressure so i believe the air must be getting in
before the tank.




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Jimmy King

02-22-2005 04:03:52




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 Re: help! air in well water in reply to chuckinnc, 02-21-2005 14:13:48  
If you have a presure tank that has a bladder in the post that said you have a hole in your pipe above the water level proably is the problem. How ever if you have a presure tank that does not have a bladder your air volume control is bad. it is screwed in the tank about 1/2 way up.



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J.C. IN AZ.

02-21-2005 20:44:59




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 Re: help! air in well water in reply to chuckinnc, 02-21-2005 14:13:48  
More than likely there is a rusted thru Pin Hole in the Drop Pipe above the Well Water Line which allows the Water in the Pipe to drain down to that Level. When the Pump kicks in the Surge of Water pushes this accumulation of Air to the Pressure ank which after becoming over Charged with air will allow some to Exit into the Supply Lines which show up as a blast of Air when the Faucet is opened.



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CNKS

02-21-2005 17:08:19




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 Re: help! air in well water in reply to chuckinnc, 02-21-2005 14:13:48  
Mine had to have the valve replaced that keeps the water from draining out of the pump when it is not running -- very common problem -- valve is at bottom of pump, so it had to be pulled.



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Keith-OR

02-21-2005 23:47:40




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 CNKS new check valve in reply to CNKS, 02-21-2005 17:08:19  
Had the same problem as you did with loosing the check valve on my pump. I have a 5 hp pump 180 feet deep at the end of 2 inch galv. pipe. I did not feel like pulling all the pipe and pump out of the well, so I just installed a 2 inch check valve above ground. That was 15 years ago, still working fine today. Figure I will have to replace pump in the near future as it was installed in 1979.....Keith In Gods country.

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Vern-MI

02-21-2005 16:23:55




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 Re: help! air in well water in reply to chuckinnc, 02-21-2005 14:13:48  
On rare occasion if there is a presence of iron in the water there is a bacteria which feeds on the iron and generates gas. There would also be some iron slime in the water if this condition exists.



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Vern

02-21-2005 15:45:45




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 Re: help! air in well water in reply to chuckinnc, 02-21-2005 14:13:48  
I think I can help you as I have the same problem. My pump man says that there is a leak in the pipe above the water line that leaks water back down when the pump is not running. Then, when the pump starts, it pushes the air that has accumulated ih the pipe into the tank. I plan to have mine pulled this summer.

Vern



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Charles (in GA)

02-21-2005 18:48:34




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 Re: help! air in well water in reply to Vern, 02-21-2005 15:45:45  
While this story will not help the original poster's question I think it does confirm the possibility that a leak in the pipe in the top of the well above the water line could very well exist.

We have a community well that is engineered with a built in leak on purpose for this very reason, to push air into the tank (a 1500 gal pressure tank, NOT a bladder type). The tank always needed to have the air head charge on it replenished. One of the neighbors used to take his portable air compressor to the well and put it on for an hour or two to accomplish this. We looked into the float type systems to maintain an air head with a permanent mounted compressor, but this was expensive and required maintenance.

Finally a local well man told us what he does. At the first pipe joint down (21 ft) he places a T instead of a coupling and puts a rubber plug in the side of the T that has a small hole in it. At the top of the well outside, is another T instead of an elbow and in the top of the T is a tire type schrader valve with no cap.

When the pump shuts off, the schrader lets air in the pipe as the water drains out thru the small hole in the rubber plug. When the pump starts up, it pushes a 21 ft column of air up the 1-1/2" pipe and into the tank. The hole is an insignificant leak for a 5 horse pump and the air is constantly replenished and the tank never needs air added and does not become waterlogged.

Charles

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kidbob

02-21-2005 15:44:59




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 Re: help! air in well water in reply to chuckinnc, 02-21-2005 14:13:48  
Unless your pressure tank has too much air in it, the air has to come from before the check valve. If the check valve is above ground the leak could be in the well pipe. If the check valve is at the pump level then the pump to too near the water level.



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Wayne Krebs

02-21-2005 18:22:02




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 Re: help! air in well water in reply to kidbob, 02-21-2005 15:44:59  
I farmed for 25 years and 2 or 3 times had the same problem. I shut the electricity off to the pump and then then opened a hydrant to drain the pressure tank of water. When the tank was drained I simply turned off the hydrant and turned on the electricty to the pump. This solved the problem for me. My pump man said my tank was waterloged. It is worth a try, cheap and simple. Good luck, Wayne

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Leroy

02-25-2005 17:45:05




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 Re: help! air in well water in reply to Wayne Krebs, 02-21-2005 18:22:02  
Wayne Krebs of west central Ohio?



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