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Toolboxes - is it me?

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Tip

02-21-2005 05:03:47




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I went to Sears to purchase a new rolling tool box. Unbelievable. The "special" $300 unit, was junk - totally thin, no bearings, really not very well made. How much for a good one, you ask, try $600 for a top and bottom. That seems like a lot of money for a tool box. I am going to purchase a good one, so I may end up spending more than I want - other than the obvious like Snap On etc., anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks, Tip

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ihmike(n.e.tx)

02-26-2005 03:37:42




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
China made stuff is now branded cornwell, and matco and probably snap on. If not it will surely come soon as the board of directors will demand it. It's about money you know. Save yourself about three thousand dollars and go to harbor freight and get the US General boxes. It weighs over four hunded pounds and is better made than a lot of snap on. If its the status symbol that your'e looking for, and it can be quite important in some arrogant workplaces, then print you some fake snap on stickers to cover up the U S General and then people (some misinformed ones) will think you must be a real crack mechanic just because you have the awe inspiring snap on brand. These people have not tried china made tools lately. They are going to take over. It is hard to compete with some one living happily in a grass hut. But we are told this is good for the USA. Time will tell who is right.

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Dooley

02-24-2005 11:52:38




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
You need to watch their Craftsman Club sales and their other sale fliers. Before Christmas, Sears was selling a ball bearing top and bottom, the top chest also 18" deep like the rollaway, for $399 and a slide one for $299. This was the club price and a good deal. While not a SnapOn quality build they are a far cry from the "home owner" type of boxes. I have 2 Craftsman tool chests with a middle sections. One has ball bearing drawers and the other slides. The slide unit is 22 years old and still strong as ever with no problems. The drawers that receive the heavier loads, I put in the bearing unit.

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SteveB

02-22-2005 06:55:21




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
I have an older Snap On 36" W rollcab. The drawer tracks are worn out and are a welded part of the drawer, What a peice of crap. 2 of my drawers I can hardly pull open without saturating track with WD. Some tracks are worn right through and just hanging by a thread. I doubt Snap On will warrenty this box I bought it over 15 years ago. I would like to blow it up.



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big jt

02-23-2005 00:08:21




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to SteveB, 02-22-2005 06:55:21  
Not to defend Snap On but check with the dealer and give him a chance. Sounds like you may use your box a lot. The lower half of the set I just bought is a 92'. previous owner had replaced the slides on the deeper drawers with roller bearing. Can't do that on the shallow drawers but that's ok by me.

Don't know whether you bought your box new but have heard that they have a policy of allowing full purchase price on trade ins. Seemed to be the case as I had a KRA53 (smallest box with a front) that I bought 18 years ago and they were allowing what I paid then without even trying. I haven't had the experience you are having though.

JM2CW

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big jt

02-21-2005 23:28:57




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
Forgot to mention Looked at Craftsman also. 40" mid level set was going to cost me about $1300.

Figured the extra quality of used Snap On was well worth the $$$$$.

jt



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big jt

02-21-2005 23:23:00




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
Just went through that quandry myself.

Out grew a 26" Snap on set with a Intermediate and 32" Roll cab. Bought a used 40" Snap On combo to replace it. Set I bought was used. Roller bearing on all top drawers and the deep lower drawers. Lightened my load by about $1500 plus tax. Set retails for about $3500 and looks like new.

Be willing to check around with different dealers in the area. The dealer I bought from owns the route in my local area. Guy in the local area told me he didn't have anything used (his usual answer). Checked with his boss and low and behold the boss had something so I dealt with him instead. Got him to throw in about $75 worth of accesories. Only thing left to do is move in!!

MSC industrial tools had a nice looking Waterloo set on sale till the 5th of March that would have been about $1500 delivered. 40" top and bottom with a side cab.

I had looked at the Stainless box but thought it was built kinda light.

You might get lucky and find a dealer who took something in on trade that wasn't his brand and he wants to unload it.

Good Luck

jt

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NC Wayne

02-21-2005 18:22:31




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
Have had a Waterloo top and bottom box, both loaded down with tools, in the shop for years and have never had any problems.



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Tip

02-21-2005 16:24:20




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
Thanks for the suggestions - I may take a look at the ss box from Sam's. In the meantime, I will keep looking at the paper/
want ads/Ebay and see what turns up.

Thanks, Tip



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luckydog

02-22-2005 12:49:30




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 16:24:20  
I got one from Sam"s Club (stainless) and I a"m tickled to death. $649.00 luckydog



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Cliff Neubauer

02-21-2005 16:20:53




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
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Do yourself a favor and look at a CPL toolbox,we have one on our service truck and I love it. Someday I'd like to get another one to replace the Snap-On and Craftsman drawer type tool boxes we have in our shop. With the CPL toolboxes the wrenches and sockets sit on pegs designed so that when the lid is closed it locks the tools into place and they can't move even if you turn the box upside down and shake it. These boxes are made from heavy gauge steel with full length welds and then they are powder coated. These boxes don't look very big but they hold alot of tools and they are worth taking a look at.

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DaveCA

02-24-2005 02:01:06




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 latenight toolbox questions! Is it only me? in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 02-21-2005 16:20:53  
looks like a sales pitch! You guys say you "replaced"?! your drawered tool box with tht?!?! How could you replace a large amount of "vertical storage" (drawers) by setting a few skinny tools on end?!?! has a small footprint for nut and bolt work, maybe for a work station for very limited work. That isn"t going to replace a regular bunch of drawers, only a couple drawers. Where do you keep the many pairs of pliers, punches, chisels, easy-outs, allen wrenches, filter wrenches, drill bits, drills, torque wrenches, air tools, hammers, pry bars, pick-up magnets/grabbers, pipe wrenches hack saw, long screw drivers, long extensions, scrapers, long breaker bars, meters/guages and anything in a pouch or box and etcetera, etcetera?
To think I would have my hands tied by "replacing" my Snap-On or Craftsman box or any drawered box with that? I would have to keep a torch lit to get anything apart and keep the welder on to get it back together. That looks like it could be a well built box. I like the idea as a limited footprint handy storage, for maybe part of a work cart, but it sure isn"t a "replacement"!? for the large horizontal space afforded by a number of drawers! Your posts just looks too much like a sales pitch when ya"ll said it replaced yer tool box.
I would believe ya if ta said you gained drawer space by getting this tool rack/box.
If you can"t say that, just what are you fixin" with those tools?
I didn"t go to the web site because I suspect this is a sales pitch. Perhaps something there would explain whats missing. I really intend this post to be sent in the best of spirit, there"s a word for some kind of sales pitches on talk forums and I can"t think of it, it"s real early here.

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Bill Becker

02-23-2005 11:27:54




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Cliff Neubauer, 02-21-2005 16:20:53  
I just bought one of these cpl boxes on ebay. I took all of the tools from my old 12 drawer craftsman chest and put them in the cpl and had room for more.

I like having all of the tools visible.



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superwrench

02-21-2005 09:34:42




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
No it's not just you, the models of tool boxes found on Sears display floors aren't sturdy enough to hold several hundred pounds of tools and still be able to move around. The guys at work that use Craftsman boxes have had to make a separate reinforced steel frame to support the casters and move their box around.You can flex the steel drawers of their black rollerbearing drawers with a couple of fingers. The only exception to this is the Professional Line of boxes that are usually special order items and come with a lifetime warranty. However, you're talking close to 2K for a top and bottom. I wish Waterloo made better boxes for Sears. Watching Ebay, the local paper, and tool truck trade ins are good sources but, as always buyer beware. I've seen some tool truck dealers want more for a used box than it was new. A box is only a house for your tools and doesn't make you any money.

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Weirsdale George

02-21-2005 08:47:28




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
You might check out this thread:



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Rauville

02-21-2005 08:30:16




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
Even though I use a 1950's vintage Snap-On, I've found that Remline boxes are just as workable.
I've seen some real bargains at garage sales on good boxes that have been bought by vo-tech students that have gone on to different fields of employment. Try a local "wanted" ad...you might be surprised at the responses.



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Indydirtfarmer

02-21-2005 07:08:13




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
Stop a Snap-On man sometime when you see one on the road. They take trade-ins, and will turn them around at a good price USUALLY.



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BFO

02-21-2005 17:56:36




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 02-21-2005 07:08:13  
yep, that's how I got some of my stuff.



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caseyc

02-21-2005 07:07:46




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
we have runnings supply which is a farm and fleet chain here in MN and SD. they have a clark brand tool box that's pretty darn heavy. i'm a die hard snap-on guy but i'm thinking about picking one up for my service truck rather than spend a fortune for a snap-on that'll get all beat up.

casey in SD



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dr.sportster

02-21-2005 05:15:34




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Tip, 02-21-2005 05:03:47  
I had a Sears,3foot high, $80 ,thin as ever sheet metal box in my truck that basiclly collapsed from the weight of the tools inside it.Not that many tools were even in it.About the only Craftman I like cost about 900.Its kind of low and wide like a snap-on.I think as long as its decent gauge metal and roller drawers brand on box wont matter.



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Jpuleo

02-21-2005 16:03:50




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to dr.sportster, 02-21-2005 05:15:34  
Try sams club or cosco. they sell a 41in stainless steel box I just bought and an thrilled with. 649.00 Its the same box branded hammerhead that sells for 3k www.cspsmetal.com is the maker Its far better than the husky or craftsman I looked at. If your near me "Connecticut" I can give you a good deal on the husky chest I upgraded from. It was made about 6 years ago and is better quality than what HD sells now.

P.S. I searched all over and I really feel I got a steel on this box and Im one cheep a-hole.

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Mikey1

02-21-2005 17:59:57




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 Re: Toolboxes - is it me? in reply to Jpuleo, 02-21-2005 16:03:50  
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Jpuleo,

I bought the same box last fall and it is fantastic. The bugger looks like a commercial fridge in the shop, but with 50 lbs of wrenches in the small drawers you can open and close them with one finger.

If you get one, get help unloading it! I was by myself and finally used my 9N with carry-all to get it off the truck. It comes in two pieces, but I swear just the bottom unit weighs 200 lbs!

Scott

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