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ljl

02-16-2005 21:23:52




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new to thi have 96 dodge dually and new 20+5 gooseneck tamden duals trailer wanted to now if have to cross scales and what rules apply i would only hauling my personal cargo no plans of doing for hire thank you ljl




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stimw

02-18-2005 18:47:59




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 Re: dot scales in reply to ljl, 02-16-2005 21:23:52  
When in doubt just stop. If they don't want to check you they will waive you through. I have been driving Semi's in Fl and Ga for 25 years and found that I just take a couple minutes and go through the scales. You don't want them to chase you down. I used to drive a Chevy Van and I had to stop for Ag inspections. As for the CDL you need to look into what you need. Your local drivers licence office will know. The tests aren't that hard, I have a CDL with all endorsements, I never know what i will be hauling. The HasMat has gotten tougher since 911. Now you need a background check to qualify.

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thejdman01

02-18-2005 15:27:02




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 Re: dot scales in reply to ljl, 02-16-2005 21:23:52  
just because you arent on a road that has scales dont mean smokey cant take you to one. been there many times done that. if he suspects you are overweight he will take you to an elevator a cat scale somewehre and will make you weigh it. all depends on the cop. notice i said the cop not the state. ive driven through states with tough laws but got a decent cop and was ok and ive gone through waht are state that are fairly lienient with weight laws etc and gotton rung out. i very very doubt you can get it to scale. you wont be able to get enough weight on the front axle. like i said depends on the cop some with your type of rig would pry say if your ok overall your gross weight theyd let you said some would do it axle by axle which they can and write you for being overweight on a certain axle just like i said depends on the cop. also watch for posted roads. even farm equipment i wouldnt try driving on posted roads. i might drive the tractor down the road but not on a trailer i wouldnt chance it. vehicles of husbandry are exempt but once its on the trailer it no longer is

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Bret4207

02-18-2005 06:48:51




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 Re: dot scales in reply to ljl, 02-16-2005 21:23:52  
Strictly speaking on the Federal level, if you aren't in commerce you aren't a Commercial Vehicle and don't need to worry about log books and such. Scales are a State issue and each State apparently has differnet policies and you'll have to check with the State you're hauling through. If this is strictly farm related you get exceptions depending on how far you are from the farm, generally 150 miles for DOT rules and 115.6 miles(100 air miles) for log book. Your best bet is to get ahold of your State Police and get what information you need from their Commercial Vehicle Unit. We regularly print off pages of the DOT Regs for truckers. Ain't technology wunderfull? Ask for printed copies of the applicable laws. If you do get stopped and ticketed you can provide those papers at Court as your defense. If you make a good attempt at following the law you should be OK, unless you hit one of these h*** holes everybody tells about.

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ih650

02-18-2005 06:47:32




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 Re: dot scales in reply to ljl, 02-16-2005 21:23:52  
I have NEVER stopped at a scale yet. I have hauled many tractors. My truck, my trailer, my tractors, private use does not have to stop at the scales. They are for commercial trucks.



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the tractor vet

02-17-2005 06:32:24




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 Re: dot scales in reply to ljl, 02-16-2005 21:23:52  
Well now that you have just become a BIG RIGGER you will need a CDL and PHISCIAL and in some states a LOG book because with a dualy and a tandem dual trailed you just went over the majic # of 26000gvw. BINGO Oh yea don't forget the safty equipment three triangels fire extingusher.



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dr.sportster

02-17-2005 08:36:13




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 Re: dot scales in reply to the tractor vet, 02-17-2005 06:32:24  
26001 lbs no CDL big $$ fine.Or anything air brakes.



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RustyFarmall

02-17-2005 08:34:49




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 Re: dot scales in reply to the tractor vet, 02-17-2005 06:32:24  
SSSHHH, don't say that too loud!! The worst part of it is that you are 100% correct.



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leland

02-17-2005 02:13:24




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 Re: dot scales in reply to ljl, 02-16-2005 21:23:52  
It depends on your state in ILL the sign says trucks over 8 tons must cross scales , just drive past scales and there should be a sign telling who has to cross.



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RustyFarmall

02-17-2005 05:38:20




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 Re: dot scales in reply to leland, 02-17-2005 02:13:24  
Iowa requires all trucks and buses over 6 tons to stop and weigh. Makes no difference if the stuff is yours or if you are hauling for hire. Nebraska requires all pick-up trucks with trailers to stop. Your best bet, if possible, find a road that has no scales.



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skipper

02-17-2005 16:15:30




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 Re: dot scales in reply to RustyFarmall, 02-17-2005 05:38:20  
Just read those comments. Ya know what is sad here is this is America and the government that is supposed to be "Of the people, By the people and For the people" and only here to "Protect and Serve" continues to make most everybody outlaws as they go about their own business. I mean if it were really for "Safety" as they try to say we could understand, but that is really not all that true. Also the fines nowadays are Outrageous. SORRY, but scales are a sore spot with me. Here in Fla they were going to make everybody driving an Expedition, F250, and Suburban -- if it had a gross wt over 8,000# get a class D but when they started writing up the little ole ladies and big shots all of a sudden they were going to pass an exemption for passanger vehicles. GO FIGGURE! I"m done.
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leland

02-19-2005 15:38:29




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 Re: dot scales in reply to skipper, 02-17-2005 16:15:30  
don't you mean a class C in ILL you drive a car or pickup on a D



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