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Cutting Dump Bed

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Red Raider

02-11-2005 17:10:16




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The Hobbs bed we have is 2' too long for the L-162 International (2.5 ton). I want to cut 2 feet out of it and need to know the best method, without a plama cutter. The angle grinder is accurate but will take forever, and the torch is fast but I'll still have to clean up the edge with a grinder for rewelding later.




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Roy Suomi

02-11-2005 22:03:12




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 Re: Cutting Dump Bed in reply to Red Raider, 02-11-2005 17:10:16  
How about renting a gas powered contractors saw with metal cutting blades?? We have a Stihl cut off saw where I work. It makes short work of metal fabrication jobs...



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VaTom

02-11-2005 17:32:15




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 Re: Cutting Dump Bed in reply to Red Raider, 02-11-2005 17:10:16  
If you have your torch set up right and use a straightedge to guide it, there"ll be minimal cleanup.



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oldrustycars

02-11-2005 19:56:42




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 Re: Cutting Dump Bed in reply to VaTom, 02-11-2005 17:32:15  
make sure you have a clean, or new torch tip. tack weld an angle iron for a guide, should have a clean edge requiring minimal clean up.



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T_Bone

02-11-2005 20:46:56




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 Re: Cutting Dump Bed in reply to oldrustycars, 02-11-2005 19:56:42  
Hi Red,

The dump bed will have alot of stress in the bed sheeting from fabrication and only gets worse as the bed is used. This means when the bed is cut, metal is going to move, alot, and be very difficult to realign.

To help stop this, pretack weld some 1/4" x 4" bar stock on the outside of the bed skin on both side of the joint, leaving about a 1/8" gap between the bars once refit. This lets you use finger grips on the 4" bar to set the joint gap for welding.

I would cut the skin with a cut off wheel on a 5" Makita side grinder. This will leave a almost preped edge for fit up after cutting. Preclean the base metal before cutting and marking as it will clean eaiser than after it's cut.

Use steel wedges with dogs to align the skin surface working from inside the bed. Rule of thumb for tack weld spacing is 50times metal thickness maximum. If the sheeting has more than average stress then I will tack weld considerable closer, every 3/4" working on 10ga and sometimes on 1/4".

You want to leave a root opening 1/2 the metal thickness as this allows the skin to shrink as the joint is welded without warping the skin. Skip weld the joint from the inside.

When the inside weld is conplete, then take off the 4" bar stock, then peen the weld with a single jack on the inside while using a double jack hammer on the outside as a dolly bar. This will stress relieve the skin before the outside is welded.

Think of the outside weld of more for "looks" than a structual weld. To much heat here can cause the metal to "pouch" or "V", to the outside.

T_Bone

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Red Raider (pic of bed)

02-12-2005 04:47:56




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 Re: Cutting Dump Bed in reply to T_Bone, 02-11-2005 20:46:56  
Forgot to mention the bed is in frame condition only and the wood planks have been removed. This should make alignment easier without the bed sheeting.

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dr.sportster

02-12-2005 07:44:55




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 Re: Cutting Dump Bed in reply to Red Raider (pic of bed), 02-12-2005 04:47:56  
Thats it? cut it with a sawzall.[And I hate sawzalls]



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