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Missouri Boy

02-02-2005 17:10:11




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I need to know the name of the measuring tool used by blacksmiths which consisted of a wheel or dosc which was used to measure the length of a wagon tire by measuring the circumference of the rim of the wheel




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jimont

02-02-2005 17:47:44




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 Re: Blacksmith tool in reply to Missouri Boy, 02-02-2005 17:10:11  
I have my grandfather's traveler. My neighbour has a round stone slab which was used as a form for making steel wheels , much like a mill stone.



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Bill WI

02-02-2005 20:58:11




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 Re: Blacksmith tool in reply to jimont, 02-02-2005 17:47:44  
Does that stone have a square hole in the center? I'm thinking a whet stone as I really don't know why they'd use a stone as a form. They used to roll the tire between 3 rolls to form it. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong though. lol



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T_Bone

02-02-2005 19:06:42




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 Re: Blacksmith tool in reply to jimont, 02-02-2005 17:47:44  
Hi Jim,

You couldn't get a picture of that stone slab so I could take a look could you?

I'm always interested in the old methods and amazed at some of the tasks these supposedly backwards people accomplished. I think they were extremely smart myself.

T_Bone



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jimont

02-03-2005 06:34:04




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 Re: Blacksmith tool in reply to T_Bone, 02-02-2005 19:06:42  
T-Bone & Bill - The stone slab used for forming the wheels is at least 3' across and does have a square hole in it. It might well have been a mill stone originaly , but the neighbour (88) remembers it as being used to form wheel bands. Bill ,I've cranked those grind-stones you're thinking of , helping my grandfather to sharpen syths (sp). My right arm is longer than my left as evidence ! T-Bone , I don't have a digital camera so I can't send pictures . I've asked the gentleman if he would sell it to me(when he's ready) as I'd like to erect it to mark, not only the site of the black-smith shop, but the little community itself.
I've considered myself to be very fortunate to have been raised around 2 smithies , my grandfather and his cousin. I've learned to adapt many pieces of "junk" into something usefull by watching them. My grandfather, as an example, made many very long screw drivers by using the gearshifts from old cars ,draw-bolts and bale-hooks by the dozens. He would go to farm sales and buy old grain binders for under $1 then tear them apart for metal and we still use the canvass rollers when moving large objects. Best lesson I ever learned was to not pick up freshly sharpened harrow teeth that had just turned from cherry red to black , thinking that they were now cool !!
Sorry for such a long post, but it just brought back a lot of very pleasant memories.

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Bill WI

02-03-2005 07:06:57




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 Re: Blacksmith tool in reply to jimont, 02-03-2005 06:34:04  
Thanks for the post, always something to learn. I suppose not every blacksmith had the bucks for every tool and I barely remember the blacksmith shops at 64. I did work as a toolmaker so am always interested and have a small forge to tinker with someday. I too learned just how "heavy" hot iron can be. In the shop if we had it out away from the treating area we had leave a "hot" tag on it. "Higher-ups" must have more tender fingers or else don't learn as fast. lol

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Davis In SC

02-02-2005 17:27:32




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 Re: Blacksmith tool in reply to Missouri Boy, 02-02-2005 17:10:11  
A Traveler



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in ct

02-04-2005 13:18:09




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 Re: Blacksmith tool in reply to Davis In SC, 02-02-2005 17:27:32  
There a lot of stone wheels 3'+ in diameter with square hole in the center in this area. Many end up being ornaments in front of antique shops or old homes. Wheels with cracks are often found as parts of our local rock walls.
Last one I asked about the owner thought it came from the bone mill on that operated on the creek running through his front yard. Used as part of the process for grinding whale bones -- creek empties into a creek called whale bone creek -- so I can see why he thought that. Yep them simple people from yesteryear had some neat ideas and did well with available raw materials.

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