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IAFarmer

01-22-2005 13:02:21




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I've been pricing buildings this week. 54x90 size. Morton buildings are 6-7000 higher than 4 of the brand X companies. Are they that much better? I know they have the best warranty. What are your experiences with different manufactures? How about 7'6" pole spacing compared to 9'? How much dripping will be going on with the vented ridge and eves compared to not having the vents? Anybody have both styles and can compare them? I will just be using this shed for storage, no shop. Thanks for your help.

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Brad. another IA farmer

01-25-2005 07:39:52




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
IA Farmer, we've also been pricing buildings. Weve recieved quotes from Astro, Morton, Wick, Harlan builders, and 2 of our local lumber yards to build as well. In our case Morton is the highest, but if you compare straight apples to apples, whcih means taking off some of Mortons std features, it gets the close, and on a 60k building Morton is only 5K higher. We've got our pick narrowed down to an Astro or the local lumberyard. We're going 60x140, poles 8' on center, with 1' overhangs (vented) and a vented ridge cap. Someday part of it will be heated shop. Feel free to email me with any questions.
Brad

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txblu

01-25-2005 05:55:43




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
I just put up a 30x50 shop with a 15x50 shed (roof extension). Morton priced it at $47k. Had BCI Barnbuilders do it for $15970. Morton included concrete. I figure the concrete will add about $5k to the price so that's 21 vs 47.

Morton builds a fancy building. BCI builds a nice building; plenty of quality; good crews, good company. Might want to try them. Surely not worth the price differential..... to me anyway. They are located in NE Okla. and service 2 to 3 states over all around them.

Mark

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fixerupper

01-23-2005 06:34:31




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
A lot can happen to a company in 25 years. Our morton 54x90 ws built in 1978 and it still has a good appearance to it. The doors still work well and nothing has come out of place. A mile away from us, a neighbor built a Lesters building a year before we built the Morton and the paint was chalked off the roof in ten years and two doors have blown off. If morton still makes them as good as they did 25 years ago, spend the extra bucks and go Morton.

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RickB

01-23-2005 03:03:08




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 Look at Wick, I put one up 2 years ago in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
And remember any building you buy is only as good as the crew that puts it up. You don't have to buy a Morton to get a vented soffet or doors that won't blow off. The idea that Morton has an extensive list of important exclusive features is hogwash.



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jhill

01-22-2005 20:10:19




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
Morton buildings cost more partly because they have a lot of features others don't. They door are really sedured so they don't rattle or blow off. They install screening in the inner eaves to keep birds out. Lots of features like that.



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Butcher

01-22-2005 16:16:49




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
Since no one answered most of your ?? here goes. As far as ventilation goes; for use as a storage only with no ceiling I would use turbine vents. Dont get the cheap ones, buy the best you can afford. If you plan on putting in a ceiling at a later time then you might want to spend the extra $$ to overhang the eaves and use vented soffit. If so you should inform whatever builder you end up with. As posted earlier it makes a diff. in the bottom coards of your trusses.
When I was building P.B. for a living I went to several workshops put on by Rolex-Certainteed and other venders. There are mathimatical ways to find how much venting you need. I cannot find the stuff right now but I would bet you could find it on the net.
As far as your pole spacing, If you want a 90ft. shed then go with 9ft pole spacing. If you want a shed that is 88ft go with 8ft centers.
Sorry for the long re;

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Mark - IN.

01-22-2005 17:52:58




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to Butcher, 01-22-2005 16:16:49  
You are right about turbin vents - if you can see through them as are spinning, save your money up front instead of water damage down the road. Those cheapies should be banned. On the barn them Amish started building for me, I'm sure isn't Morton, they I'm pretty sure use specific contractors if buy through them. I didn't know that Jan 6 is the Christmas Day them Amish celebrate, until they told me were taking it off to celebrate - haven't seen them since. Need both ends put up, and guess will be waiting until spring for concrete.

As for Morton buildings, I've heard great stories about them and their warranty work, and have heard bad. Probably depends on the quality of the contractor in the area used. Suppose is like Harley wrenches, everyone knows the best, everyone else stinks, even if are someone else's Hog God. You won't hear me talk them down. I've seen some nice Morton buildings.

How's that lab doing there Butcher? Mine is doing better. Blood and biopsies came back negetive. Vet figures is bad yeast infection. So, washing paws with medicated shampoo, and plenty of white vinegar, and hiding huge pills and capsules in cheese and ??? Pads are clearing up. Got snowed in in Joliet this weekend, but hear he's having fun trouncing around in in big snow back home in Indiana. Sorry, didn't get picture of Hog, but will. Hope your's, she is doing better. What'd ya find out? How's she doing?

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Butcher

01-23-2005 07:29:11




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to Mark - IN., 01-22-2005 17:52:58  
Hi Mark. Thanks for asking about the dog. Had to increase the insulin dosage and that seemed to do the trick. Gained back abunch of wieght and is chasin the cats again. I know what you mean about Morton bldg's. Like em or hate em. Cant please everybody no matter how hard you try.



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Mark - IN.

01-24-2005 20:27:31




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to Butcher, 01-23-2005 07:29:11  
Glad to hear about the lab. Good dogs. Glad to hear is chasin cats, it just aint natural for them not to. I don't care what anyone says, normal dogs chase cats.



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Ryan

01-22-2005 14:53:17




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
I would check around your area and see how good your dealer is, and more importantly the crews that put the buildings up vary. If you want a building up in a timely fashion I would consider Morton. Our neighbor is putting a pole barn, the first thing they did was dig a hole to start building it, sure is a mess and it blew down once already. We have two Morton buildings, one is a 58x48 garage, it looks like the day it was put up, that was 10 years ago. They told us on our last building that if a tornado takes it down in the first ten years they will put it back up no question asked. Compared to our Armco steel building the Morton does not drip at all, some of the stuff inside has sweat this year but it has been exceptionally ideal weather for this phenomena which usually only occurs twice in our Armco steel. The bottom line, check in your area, see if the people who are buying buidings from your dealer are happy, look at their buildings. Try and find out who the builder will be. Ours came out remarkably square and we have had no problems. When we told them we did not think there was enough downspouts they came back and put four more on each side, no questions asked. Morton did have an era where they had problems with their paint, that has since been resolved.

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RustyFarmall

01-22-2005 15:26:04




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to Ryan, 01-22-2005 14:53:17  
Ryan, your experience is definately different than mine, the crew that erected my morton building spent six months working on it, and then had to come back six times for repairs before I would sign off on it. I am sure that I had the building crew from H***, but when I contacted the corporate office and they would do nothing about it, I knew I been had big time. The only recourse I have is to tell everybody of my experience, and hopefully no one else will be taken for a ride like I was.

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RustyFarmall

01-22-2005 14:07:17




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
I live in southwest Iowa, I own a morton building. The vented ridge and eaves will not leak IF it is installed properly. It took three trys on mine to get it right. As far as the warranty goes, with the experience I have had, the warranty means nothing, once the building is up and you have signed off on it, the building is yours. Morton WILL NOT honor the warranty.



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BigR

01-22-2005 14:04:36




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
Morton doesn't stand behind their buildings. I have a Morton pole barn that is 11 years old. I bought the property 4 years ago. 2 months after I bought the place the paint on the white roof started peeling off. Contacted Morton. They are not good about returning phone calls. You have to talk to the local dealer. Finally called the headquarters in Illinois who forced the dealer to call me back. The warranty is only good to the original owner (read the fine print). They even admitted that they had paint problems in the time frame that my roof panels were painted. And they told me about local pole barns near me that they replaced the roofs for free (to the original owner, though). Dealer offered to replace the roof for 1/3 the price of the original building price. Told me they were doing me a favor. Then asking for it in writing the dealer said he never said it. Offered me a $800 allowance for painting the roof. Got a quote from a local painting contractor and it was considerably more than that. Every time we have a wind or rain I have small white paint chips all over my yard, vehicles, etc. I would NEVER deal with Morton if they gave me a building. Too big of a company to care about personal service. I'm in Wisc. and tried to go with the State Consumer Protection AGency but Morton is based in Illinois so they're considered an out of state business and they have no jurisdiction. When I build another pole barn I'll go with a local contractor. Waiting for the roof to completely strip itself then I'll call an attorney.

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Ryan

01-22-2005 15:02:42




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to BigR, 01-22-2005 14:04:36  
"Waiting for the roof to completely strip itself then I'll call an attorney."

How about, "Waiting for the roof to completely strip itself then I'll call a painter".

What grounds can you go back on them if you say, "The warranty is only good to the original owner (read the fine print)". Seems like you will spend more money and energy to no avail. I can look around the countryside and see plenty of the type of buildings (era) that you speak off. I just can't beleive you would be sucessful, but maybe you know that too, waiting this long (3 plus years). It does make us feel better to vent. If it is a 20 year warranty, might it take 9 more years for the paint to peel off?

Ryan

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BigR

01-22-2005 15:44:03




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to Ryan, 01-22-2005 15:02:42  
FYI I believe the warranty is lifetime on the product, not sure about the installation. I would have to dig out the papers from the guy I bought it from (original owner). As far as the time frame it won't be long and the roof will be unpainted. The paint fails because of the sun baking it. This info came right from an engineer at Morton. My barn sits against the woods. That side is perfect. The oppisite side faces the west so the sun shines on it most of the day. As far as contacting an attorney, my attorney recommended waitng for the roof to be bare. Better case I guess. My biggest problem with Morton is they're engineer admitted the problems to me and when I finally got ahold of the dealer he was upset because the engineer told me that info. He said he was going to contact the home office regarding that. Maybe the engineer got fired for telling corporate secrets. Have no idea. Yes, I'm venting. You take care of your property and house, etc. and then have an nice pole barn (workshop for tractors) that has the roof look like h.... In this day and age I can maybe understand shoddy installation but when somebody buys a product and pays good bucks it should last. I can understand a shingle roof needing to be reshingled but repainting a painted roof????? ?? My last house had a Menards pole barn that I put up myself 17 years before I sold the property and the side and roof panels were as good as new other than being dirty. Just my 2 cents.

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Butcher

01-22-2005 13:13:07




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAFarmer, 01-22-2005 13:02:21  
Did you check Cleary's price? They put up a good shed. If you are close to the waterloo area Midwest buildings (kind of a brand x)puts up a good shed also at a good price.



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Jack-Iowa

01-23-2005 07:09:46




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to Butcher, 01-22-2005 13:13:07  
I got a Midwest and it is a great building and was impresed.Call them .



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IAfarmer

01-22-2005 13:17:08




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to Butcher, 01-22-2005 13:13:07  
Yea, I got a price from Cleary. I did like the fact that they use a full length (unspliced) laminated column for the posts. Thanks for your reply.



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Gerald J.

01-22-2005 13:37:42




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 Re: Morton buildings worth the $$$ in reply to IAfarmer, 01-22-2005 13:17:08  
I don't think Morton buildings are worth their price. I bought a Wick last year.

Cleary isn't cheap when they have to meet snow load specifications.

I do prefer laminated posts to solid posts. The laminated posts stay straight longer and split less. And when the truss sits down in the top of the laminated posts held in place with widely spaced big bolts that connection is strong.

Post and truss spacing depends a great deal on the strength chosen for the posts and especially for the trusses. Longer spans sometimes are more economic with closer spaced trusses, sometimes not. It depends a lot on the size of the 2x used to make the trusses. Then the required strength depends on the snow load you expect the roof to hold and whether you intend to put up a ceiling or to store stuff in the trusses.

Gerald J.

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