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bill b va

01-19-2005 13:15:47




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i have been following the posts on back feeding emergency power for some time now . my shop is 200 ft away connected with # 6 awg under ground cable 50 amp breaker. the wiring and shop have never been inspected. i want to be able to power the water well ,freezer, frig and some lights from there . will i be legal and safe if i install a 50 amp recep at the panel box and put a plug on my cable to the shop (shop is now powered by an extension cord and not subject to the code I HOPE). next make up a junction box with 2 each 230 volt receps . one for the well and one for the cable from the shop (iknow it will be hot if the gen is running) and 2- 115 volt receps for appliances and lights. i would probable connect the gen directly into the shop panel ... one could replace the welder pig tail with a 4 connector pigtail and have neutral and ground .i present this for CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISIM .thanks will be looking for comments .bill

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txblu

01-20-2005 06:22:34




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 Re: emergency power hook up in reply to bill b va, 01-19-2005 13:15:47  
#6 is rated for 55 amps but that is subject to heat limitations of the insulation and line drop (getting adequate power to your appliances). 200 ft is getting out there.

Pump is say 2 hp, freezer 1 hp, ref 1 hp
and lights (7ea 100 w bulbs) 1 hp. Total 5 hp. At 745 w/hp, and 230 volts you are at 745 (x 1.15 for efficiency) x 5 / 230 = 18.6 amperes Line Running Amps (max...everything on at the same time).

That on #6 and 200 ft shouldn't be a problem.

I'd say you have a second problem to recon with. If you don't have code restrictions in your area, you have PERSONAL SAFETY. Having a common ground would be my first concern as it always is (especially when you are using standby power and not REA power).

Can't tell if you normally have REA power or just plan to use the gen all the time. That could make a difference in insuring one is disconnected before using the other which is an additional concern to insure correctness.

If I were going to do that, and I have run the house off standby power before when we had storms, I would insure that I had a positive ground reference for everything.

The common object for that is the 8 ft copper rod buried in the ground with a #6 bare wire connected to the service at the point of entry.

In your case I would include the gen neut (Preferably unit safety ground lug) in this grounding scheme which means another 8 ft ground rod at the gen (200 ft away) connected to the neut and case of the gen (green wire).

I have no authority to speak to you as I am but I assume that you are headed in that direction anyway and I am offering my 2c to maybe preventf a serious injury to you.

Good luck.

(Can't say don't do it as I have pulled off stunts like that and luckily have gotten away with it.....without killing myself or someone else)

Mark

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bill b va

01-20-2005 09:08:11




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 Re: emergency power hook up in reply to txblu, 01-20-2005 06:22:34  

see clarification below ..



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