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Any HVAC advice out there?

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Bob - MI

01-18-2005 11:27:23




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I am fininshing my walkout basement and am about to do the ceiling. The walls are now finished and insulated and there are 3 originally installed heating ducts that will be in the ceiling. My question is if I should do some type of cold air return down there? The furnace is in the basement and I can tap into the return ducts in many places however they will be tapped at the ceiling level of the basement. It seems to me that there should be some kind of return down there but I don"t know how to do it. I haven"t had any additional duct work estimated yet but if this is a professional only kind of thing I will pick up the phone.

House is a two-story Cape Cod style 2600 sq. ft, excluding the basement, forced air nat. gas heat.

Thanks in advance

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Mike in Ohio

01-19-2005 07:48:48




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 Re: Any HVAC advice out there? in reply to Bob - MI, 01-18-2005 11:27:23  
Bob It would be better to put the cold air returns close to the floor as it will draw the cold air off the floor and draw the heated air down to where you are.Hot air rises and will naturally stay close to the ceiling,if your returns are there they will draw the warm air off.If any of your finished walls are open on the backside to another part of the basement it would be simple to run a return from the bottom up to an existing return line. Good Luck. Mike

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jhill

01-18-2005 15:45:02




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 Re: Any HVAC advice out there? in reply to Bob - MI, 01-18-2005 11:27:23  
My furnace was professionally installed and the cold air returns are in the ceiling. They are just cut into the upsatirs return ducts. You can do it yourself.



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Bob - MI

01-19-2005 05:34:04




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 Re: Any HVAC advice out there? in reply to jhill, 01-18-2005 15:45:02  
Thanks for the comment. I didn"t know where to start this one and I guess old age is creeping up on me and I"m getting more cautious.



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T_Bone

01-20-2005 12:59:15




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 Re: Any HVAC advice out there? in reply to Bob - MI, 01-19-2005 05:34:04  
Hi Bob,

It is the SA (supply air) register design that puts the air into the room where it's needed called the "throw" of a register. A system design with the correct register throw design can have a ceiling return.

Alot of the newer homes are now running balanced HVAC systems much like the commerical HVAC systems. This means that total CFM flow of a system is distributed evenly throught the duct system to the heating or cooling demand of each room. Placement of the registers in this type of system is critical to correct system orperation.

With the above in mind a HVAC contractor most likely designed your system to only handle the finished living space at the time of construction but sized the indoor air unit so a new fan or fan motor could be installed at a latter time when the basement was finished.

To add additional SA registers off a existing balanced system would starve the total system of air by about 11% or a 11% drop of SA cfm in each room.

Here in AZ you would not feel comfortable in a room with a 11% drop in cfm during the peak cooling season on a typical balanced HVAC system as most contractors undersize system requirments to begin with.

T_Bone

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