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Sand Blaster or Wire Brush.

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Lennard

12-11-2000 13:43:11




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I've always wanted an air compressor but money is tight. Have a under the house, unfinished garage.
I am about to tear down and restore my 1939MM ZTU tractor.

Question: Should I get the compressor and sandblastor or go with a grinder and wire brush to prep the rusty tractor for paint.

I'm not out for the perfect restoration. I do plan on using the tractor for plowing and pulling wood. I want it painted up to help preserve the tractor. I might leave it outside a month or two a year during frequent use. I've never sandblasted before and just don't know if it will save me enough time to justify the expense. I can always bursh on the paint.

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Brad B.

12-14-2000 11:28:32




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 Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to Lennard, 12-11-2000 13:43:11  
Hello, I restore top level show cars (classics). My dad collects '48-'58 tractors and implements. If you want to keep your sanity and do good quality work, I highly recomment setting up you shop/garage properly before beginning the restoration. That includes learning good techniques and what equipment and materials to use. For painting and metal preparation you will need: 1. Good compressor with adequate capacity, preferably a two stage cast iron pump. 2. A large glass bead blasting cabinet. This will allow you to clean and stip countless parts that will fit inside. It is expensive but will pay for itself in short order with it's convenience and the countless places you will use it. Mine is extra big at 40"X40"X30"H and cost $1700. I can fit a block or a grill in there. You can get a smaller one for half that or less and still reap a lot of benefit. 3. A good paint gun. I use a SATA(German) gravity feed gun and I love it. It doesn't wast as much material as siphon feed guns. 4.One of the best primers you can use is PPG DP Epoxy primer. It is rust inhibitive and seals out moisture. I could go on and on with techniques for metal preparation procedures but you need to set up shop first if you want to enjoy restoration. Brad B.

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Lennard

12-15-2000 20:24:37




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 Re: Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to Brad B., 12-14-2000 11:28:32  
Thanks guys. The wife approved a compressor for Christmas. I think I'll work on a small pressurized blaster from there. Happy Holidays.



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Brad B.

12-14-2000 11:36:40




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 Re: Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to Brad B., 12-14-2000 11:28:32  
Sorry I forgot to add that I have a 100lb pressure blaster and my 3hp two stage Champion compressor cannot keep up with it. I get about 2 to 6 minutes blasting time and the pressure decreases throughout the 6 minutes. I hardly use it though. I end up farming out most of my blasting work (frames, rear ends, wheels etc) because it is cheaper for me- no mess, no getting dirty, less time to get it done. Siphon blasters do not do well for large jobs-get clogged, takes way to long to blast large objects. Wire wheel on a fender or frame is just not practical. You will not get truly clean parts, and you will spend forever trying to do it this way. Brad B.

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Bill

12-12-2000 05:52:16




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 Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to Lennard, 12-11-2000 13:43:11  
If your going to spent the money, get a good air comp. with a large tank. You will never be sorry. You need the volume of air to power anything, and to keep up with all the tools you may purchase in coming years. THATS FIRST!! Then if you want a sandblaster that fine, I guess that your prefrenace. My self I would buy a spray gun to paint your tractor, so much better job and if your going to do it, do it right the first time or you will always think, IF I WOULD OF----- !! Good luck!!

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read this post i....know my stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!

12-11-2000 20:33:57




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 Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to Lennard, 12-11-2000 13:43:11  
i have a large mobile sandblaster, find some one in your area with a large sandblaster and have it blasted , i useually charge about 200.00 for doing a tractor that size and its ready to paint, just cover all the holes where sand could get in and use a experenced blaster you will be pleased with the results.



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Jim K

12-11-2000 17:20:52




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 Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to Lennard, 12-11-2000 13:43:11  
Lenard I've got myself a cheep $50.00 syphon type blaster thats good for getting in places where a wire wheel can't I wouldn't try to blast a whole
tractor with it. I would however use it in conjunction with a wirewheel to do a tractor.
or you could go high dollar and get a pressure type blaster which would do your whole tractor nicely.which ever way you go be sure to get the right sise compressor to power it or you'll spend more than half you're time waiting for the compressor to catch up.
Jim K

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Mike

12-13-2000 03:10:42




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 Re: Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to Jim K, 12-11-2000 17:20:52  
friend went halves w/ me this summer and we got a pressureized blaster for 100$. I used it to blast majority of that G. WHAT A MESS!!!! Sand everywhere! But it did a good job on the tractor. No small compressor will run it though. I had to run the compressor on my service truck to make enough air for it. Mike



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F14

12-11-2000 17:58:24




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 Re: Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to Jim K, 12-11-2000 17:20:52  
Coupla points on sandblasting. I think Jim K has the right approach, use the wire wheel (a braided cup-type on a 4-1/2 in. grinder works great)for everything you can, and an el-cheapo siphon type for the nooks and crannies.

To get a blasting setup for big jobs that won't drive ya crazy, ya need about twice as much compressor as you'd think, and a cabinet with a vacuum filter and it'll cost a bloody fortune. For a one-shot deal, I wouldn't bother.

Also, blasting is nasty, dirty, hazardous work. You'll have sand (or more accurately, 'media') in places you never dreamed of. The dust is bad for your lungs, so wear a good mask, or even better, a respirator. Getting it in the house (and you will, with a under-house garage) is bad for your marriage. Cleaning it out of nooks and crannies before painting is a PITA.

Do buy the best compressor you can afford. You'll never understand how you got along without one, trust me. Impact wrenches, air rachets, paint sprayers, air chisels, nailers, or even just blowing up the tires on the kids bikes, they're a marvelous machine to have around.

An alternative I've heard of, but never seen or tried, is 'wet blasting' with some sort of media, a special nozzle, and a pressure washer. BTW, a decent pressure washer is another marvelous invention...

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robert hudson

12-11-2000 18:25:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to F14, 12-11-2000 17:58:24  
i've tried the wet sand with my Karcher 2200 psi pressure washer. i was using play sand and blasting a rusted hit/miss flywheel. took 50 lbs of sand to clean about 2 sq.ft. rusted back within 30 minutes. but it was much better on the operator than air blasting. i think its probably good for paint on brick and concrete, or is my method wrong? I'm going to try it on a IH H hood that someone painted with a paint brush. I really want the wet blaster to work especially after paying $80.00 for it. any suggestions?

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John Ne.

12-11-2000 22:18:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to robert hudson, 12-11-2000 18:25:23  
Do not blast sheet metal with this set up or with a sand blaster,,, you'll make it wavy if you have enough pressure to knock off rust or paint. Large sheet metal areas on truck hoods or doors can be absolutely ruined by blasting,,, stretches the metal and paint won't hide the problems,,,,



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Cal S

12-11-2000 19:26:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to robert hudson, 12-11-2000 18:25:23  
Robert, To get that blaster to work right you need a stronger[higher]pressure washer. I have that setup with a 3500 psi 11 horse with the wet sand blast and it works great. Cal.



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pat

12-16-2000 07:38:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush. in reply to Cal S, 12-11-2000 19:26:01  
Here is my 2cents worth. We use water, air and soda to strip the paint off aircraft. If you are not careful, you can rip right through the a/c skin. The metal will deform from the pressure if you are not careful, and it WILL show when you paint it! I don't think it would cut through tractor tin, but I bet it would deform it.

What I prefer to do is take the parts and put them in a chemical strip tank. Turco makes some really effective stripper. Obviously it will do nothing for rust, but if you want to take a non rusted piece back to bare metal, this works well.

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Cory Sleeper

09-03-2004 17:22:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sand Blaster or Wire Brush in reply to pat, 12-16-2000 07:38:02  
I have a husq pressure washer Honda 13 hp and 3700 psi, 4 gpm. I modified a sand blastig gun/nozzle , and if you hold it on 1\4" plate using black diamond for 20 seconds it will blow through. It cleans ALL rust off. So, save the wire brush for your turkey turd welding.



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