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Dave (IL)

01-08-2005 21:16:17




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Have an old chimney built of concrete flue sections. Top 3 or so blocks are split. Been that way a long time, but I'm doing the roof and figure it's about time.
Had a chimney guy come out. He said he'd put in stainless liner (he says there is no liner in the chimney. I haven't looked recently) and that would be about 1200-1300 bucks. Then said he'd have mason remove top of chimney down to the roof and replace with brick. Yesterday he said the total would be 3100 dollars.
So it's basement through 1 story, probably about 20-25 feet of stainless liner. and about 8 feet of new brick chimney.

Was a time when I would have done it myself but... age creeps up. Does $3100 sound out of line?

Thanks.

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lou

01-13-2005 10:17:27




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 Re: Chimney Repair in reply to Dave (IL), 01-08-2005 21:16:17  
Ive buildt two houses in recent years, have used double wall stainless for both with good results,it worth checking into.



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MPK

01-09-2005 13:02:56




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 Re: Chimney Repair in reply to Dave (IL), 01-08-2005 21:16:17  
I went through the same thing a few years ago. Found out it was cheaper to put in a new energy efficient furnace than to fix the chimney. Just put a plastic pipe out the basement wall. We knocked of the top of the chimney and closed up the hole.



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Dave (IL)

01-09-2005 12:32:37




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 Re: Chimney Repair in reply to Dave (IL), 01-08-2005 21:16:17  
Shoulda asked here a few days earlier - give me time to put brain in gear. Too late now. New chimney is probably up by now.

Installed furnace - actually boiler - in '92. Considered hi efficiency then knowing the chimney should be fixed up. Waited 12 years to take care of chimney. When the estimate went from 12-15 to 3100 I was pretty much committed to doing it and said yes before I thought too much. Son and his lady and my two grandkids are living there now, so feel more compelled to make it right.

So, even if the price was OK, I probably did the wrong thing. Now the boiler will probably go out.

Thanks for all the advice. It was all good.

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buickanddeere

01-12-2005 11:48:42




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 Re: Chimney Repair in reply to Dave (IL), 01-09-2005 12:32:37  
All is not lost and you have built in future flexibility.
The price of electric heat, oil, LP and gas is going to continue to rise.
About the time that boiler expires stoker coal will becoming more popular. Coal today is already cheaper then other fossil fuels. Or a grain/wood pellet stoker maybe considered. Only 400 years more worth of coal in a couple counties of Pennsylvania alone. Hitzer and Harmon make domestic sized clean burning stoker boilers. They even have a high efficiency oil burner backup on them. That liner will perk up the chimney's draft with the insulating dead air space between the new steel and old clay liner.

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MAC,IL

01-09-2005 11:41:24




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 Re: Chimney Repair in reply to Dave (IL), 01-08-2005 21:16:17  
no what you mean on age creeping. You may be as well off with just another energy efficeint furnace for that price. Using PVC for the intake and exhaust. My son & I ran into that situation several years ago, replaced the chimney from the basement up, lined it with some type of tile per recommendation. Think it was called flue tile? CRS no more. A big mess from start to finish. AND NOW we find it was a waste of time as he later installed a new energy efficient furnace. Dont even use the chimney any more. Think in your situation the labor is what is gonna get into your dinner bucket.

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Butcher

01-09-2005 07:14:49




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 Re: Chimney Repair in reply to Dave (IL), 01-08-2005 21:16:17  
Went through that 3 years ago here. It was cheaper to install a new high eff. furnace and waterheater with a power vent than to repair chimney.



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Dave (IL)

01-09-2005 06:27:33




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 Re: Chimney Repair in reply to Dave (IL), 01-08-2005 21:16:17  
Thanks guys.
The block is very split in at least the top two. Like an inch or two separation. It is not an insulated liner, just a stainless flue - 6".
My daughter called the guy randomly on a new house she moved into. He was straightforward and not an OMG fear monger. Then I talked to him when he looked at this and he was the same.
Only reason I'm even asking is that when we first talked, he was rough estimating the liner at 12-1300 and said he'd have to talk to mason before he could have a full estimate. 3100 gave me a lil sticker shock. Naturally I came here for a little reality check.
Mason's coming this morning!

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Dannie

01-09-2005 05:00:27




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 Re: Chimney Repair in reply to Dave (IL), 01-08-2005 21:16:17  
Get more than 1 est.if you can.What he wants to do is the way to repair a chimney now days.Check with your homeownes insurance they paid 1/3 of my cost to repair chimney.



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Dave NE IOWA

01-08-2005 22:05:34




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 Re: Chimney Repair in reply to Dave (IL), 01-08-2005 21:16:17  
If looks isn't a big deal suggest stucko. Dig out any loose mortar and blow off the dust. Mix pure mason cement (same as portland cement with lime added) and water to a laxtex paint consistancy. Then paint it with this mixture. This gives a very rich mix at the contact point. Then mix mason cement with the mason sand just like a mortar mix for laying block and plaster it on. Let it dry till it starts to get hairline cracks in it, then rubber sponge it with LOTS AND LOTS OF WATER ON THE SPONGE. If it starts to pull the mixture from the block you are not using enough water on the sponge. In a perfect world you should wrap it with burlap to keep it moist for a few days. The material costs very very little. As far as the ss liner I would guess that is insulated, and would wonder if just a ss pipe would work just as well. With the information you gave there could be a whole lot that I am unaware of by all means. Dave NE IOWA

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