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ric

01-03-2005 11:15:36




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its been raining alot here in ohio alot of dampness and my garage which is built from enclosing one end of a pole barn. i had a cement floor put in the roof doesnt leak but everytime it rains for a couple days it draws dampness inside mainly on everything especially the floor. i have a few open gaps here and there. is this the reason it gets damp inside




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DAVE NE IOWA

01-06-2005 22:24:34




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to ric, 01-03-2005 11:15:36  
I,m not sold on the wicking thing mentioned by others so try this. I was questioned real hard one time as the customers floor was wet and wondered if the plastic was put down then tore some how. I then took a piece of flat sheet steel on the floor with a hand full of 16 penny nails under it to gap it a 1/8 inch. The steel was wet so the moisture had to jump up off the floor and onto the sheet steel. he was big enough to appologize later. I certianly do not intend to offend others for their opinions, just give mine. Dave NE IOWA

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Don TN

01-04-2005 13:29:07




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to ric, 01-03-2005 11:15:36  
While some moisture will be drawn up through the concrete slab, most of the moisture is most likely coming from the air in the building. What is happening on your slab is just like what happens on a glass of ice-tea or other cold drink. The moisture in the air is at a high level, but not high enough to precipitate out of the air at the temperature that the air is at. However, the glass of ice-tea, and your slab and your equipment are at a temperature that is low enough to cause the moisture in the air that touches them to precipitate out. In other words, these cooler items are at temperatures that are lower than the dew point of the air. This will normally happens during a warm spell after a cold spell. The cool weather cools your slab and equipment down, then when the temperature outside starts to come up along with the humidity of the air, it will usually do so faster than your slab and equipment can naturally warm up, so they are cooler than the air, and when the dew point of the air reaches the temperature of your slab or equipment, moisture forms on them. All that should be necessary to prevent the vast majority of your moisture problems is to keep those items above the dew point temperature. Sometimes just a small heater is all that is necessary. Insulation is always your best bet, but if you did not insulate your slab, you can always insulate the outside surface of the slab and bury sheets of Styrofoam insulation (use the pink or blue and not the white) horizontally from your slab outward. This will help to keep your slab from not getting quite as cold. Also, if possible, slope the ground away from your slab to help prevent moisture build up under the slab. Hope this helps.

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ric

01-04-2005 15:40:20




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to Don TN, 01-04-2005 13:29:07  
i want to thank everyone for your inputs.especially DON TN i think he is on the right track. i suspected something like he explained it but i just couldnt put it all together. thank you all very much RICK



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MAC,IL

01-03-2005 12:33:41




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to ric, 01-03-2005 11:15:36  
Difference in temp, specially if you didnt put a moisture barrier down before you poured the floor.



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Hound

01-03-2005 11:24:39




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to ric, 01-03-2005 11:15:36  
Odds are that the moisture is being drawn up through the cement floor. Are there drains around your shed?... under your floor? Is there gravel under your cement? Did you insolate under your floor? Hound



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dr.sportster

01-03-2005 12:23:08




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to Hound, 01-03-2005 11:24:39  
My barn does this.I think it is because of the temp difference between inside and outside.Even in summer the barn is cooler inside when you open the door everything sweats up.I dont really know what to do short of a dehumidifier.It makes me wipe down all my equipment every time I open the door.Its a real pain but I hate rust on anything.I think we need dehumidifiers[they use power like an air conditioner almost].I cant really afford the electric bill now.So ill keep wiping off the moisture.

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Mike M

01-03-2005 13:05:01




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to dr.sportster, 01-03-2005 12:23:08  
For all that you can wipe off of the outside how much is on the inside you can't see ???



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dr.sportster

01-03-2005 13:54:13




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to Mike M, 01-03-2005 13:05:01  
Mike, I dont want to think about that.I do spin motors not in use often.My neighbor is a swamp.Quiet,never calls the cops on you but plenty moist.



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lucass

01-03-2005 12:51:29




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to dr.sportster, 01-03-2005 12:23:08  
i agree about the vapor barrier. it keeps water from being drawn up thru the floor.have one bldg with wet floor and one dry,only diff was the plastic we put down in the new floor. lucass.



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dr.sportster

01-03-2005 15:06:16




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 Re: garage drawing dampness in reply to lucass, 01-03-2005 12:51:29  
I watched the masoArns pour that floor but didnt know much about using a vapor barrier at the time.Short of alot of jackhammering;too late now.Armed with the knowledge for next time anyway.



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