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Miller Econotig welders??

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Trucks

01-02-2005 11:09:19




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Hi guys, I am the one with the Big air compressor question about pulleys.I have a guy that may trade me a almost new Econotig welder for it?What do you think.My welding salesman said there were some problems with them?I don't have much in the compressor.Any suggestions?




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John K

01-03-2005 14:45:27




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to Trucks, 01-02-2005 11:09:19  
I have had one for over 10 years, no problem with it. I have welded 1/4 alum. with it. Good on stainless and steel also. Had many people want to buy it, still have it. Great machine.



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Trucks

01-04-2005 06:02:30




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to John K, 01-03-2005 14:45:27  
Thanks guys, I think I'll trade for it!!!



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ScottP

01-03-2005 11:35:13




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to Trucks, 01-02-2005 11:09:19  
Trucks
I would go for it. What have you got to lose? You will get more use out of the welder than the compressor. At least you have the power to run the welder. Let someone else mess with the compressor.
Scott



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Trucks

01-02-2005 15:49:53




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to Trucks, 01-02-2005 11:09:19  
Hey thanks guys, this is Trucks.My cousin has the machine, he bought it new about 5years ago, and he said I could try it out.I have never TIG welded,but I love the look of the weld.I build custom cars, and trucks.My main welder is a Millermatic 250,I love it.I just thought I might want to use a TIG every now and then.I have a spoolgun for my MIG, but it is a lot of trouble to change it over to the other gas,etc... to weld aluminum.I had just heard that the"Econotig"wasn't all that great, but I only have a little in the compresor.It is so big that not just anybody could use it.My cousin has a BIG machine shop, and he has 3phase in it so power would not be a problem.Last year he priced the welder to me for $750.I didn't have the money, but I thought if I could trade, why not?

P.S. Miller owns Hobart not the other way around, and in my opinion there is not a MIG welder that compares with a Miller!!

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ric

01-03-2005 12:15:22




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to Trucks, 01-02-2005 15:49:53  
what is the difference between mig and tig



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dr.sportster

01-03-2005 13:04:55




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to ric, 01-03-2005 12:15:22  
RIC, mig is wire feed,from a spool of filler wire.TIG[tungtsen inert gas] or GTAW in hobart books.It is also called heli arc.If you can gas weld with ox/acet you will be able to learn TIG easily.TIG is very controlable.MIG is good for amateurs easiest in my opinion [I DONT HAVE MIG].TIG skills can be improved by gas welding practice.All welding is somewhat easy the trick is to troubleshoot correctly when things dont go right.Get welding books and follow instructions about different procedures.Dont take any shortcuts.If they worked the book would tell you that.Research if you need watercooled torch etc.The welding supply houses near me will let you try out different machines.Votech scools have adult night classes for pro and hobby welders

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Steve Crum

01-02-2005 15:10:28




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to Trucks, 01-02-2005 11:09:19  
I'd say go for it! An Econotig is the primary welder in my shop. I bought it new 8 or 9 years ago. After a few problems that turned out to be incorrect wiring from the factory, it has worked great. And it has a LOT of hard hours on it in a less than ideal enviroment for electronic gizmos.
Don't let the name mislead you. It's a Miller thru and thru. These are also marketed under the Hobart name, I understand Hobart owns Miller.

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dr.sportster

01-02-2005 13:20:16




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to Trucks, 01-02-2005 11:09:19  
HEy I got one;20 yrs old good for arc.Nevercould get the TIG Foot contrrol from the miller dealer Usd a tech scratch start.I paid $400 used bare mchine no cables or argon guage etc. Main switch is a 50 amp ge crcuit breaker.Honestly it was a great litle machine but I may buy a new miler or linc TIG in the 2000 price range.If I ever sold the Econotwin Id ask about the 400 I originally paid.On 1/2 alum. and up it would constantly trip the breaker.But it is old and simple but has a high freq. switch.Ask him if you can try it out.It is good thin steel on tig.A weldor at work once told me any miller foot control would fit.Good home machine.

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dr.sportster

01-02-2005 13:30:22




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to dr.sportster, 01-02-2005 13:20:16  
Hey wait you said ECONOTIG and I read ECONOTWIN.I think [I am an idiot or need glasses] Got all excited when I thought it was the ancient Miller ECONOTWIN I have which nobody seems to have heard of.Sorry two diferent machines.As Emilly Latella said;NEVERMIND.



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Jonboy

01-02-2005 11:42:15




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 Re: Miller Econotig welders?? in reply to Trucks, 01-02-2005 11:09:19  
I went into Millers website and the suggested retail on a new econotig is $1,598.00 and is considered a hobby, or home use set up. Do you have any experience with tig welders?, they take more skill than mig or stick, but the weld quality is supurb for joining sheetmetal. I wouldn't be surprized that they didn't hold up as well as others because as the name suggests, "econotig" as in cheap basic model. Probably fine for light use, but a full time body shop or something might run into problems. Tig welding is something I'd like to get back into as I did some back in high school, but my shop isn't very big and another welder would mean even less work space. Theres good money in tig welding if you can get good at it, but it's a skill that not everyone is capable of picking up.

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