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HobbyFarmerInWI

12-28-2004 15:31:48




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I need to run a two wire electric fence around a small pasture to turn out some feeder steers. I found one in the barn but not sure how to hook it up. It is called a Mini Zap from a company called Zapper.

It is 6" wide, 5" tall, and about 3" deep. There is a place for a wire that is marked with a red button wire holder, and a place for a wire with a black button wire holder. There is a red light that turns on when plugged in, and you can hear the box cycling on an off based on the clicking noise from inside the unit.

Do I take my wire and run it from the charger's red button, around the pasture, and loop back to the black button? Or do I run the wire from the red button and just end it somewhere, and run a seperate wire from the black button to a gound?

Thanks for answering what is most likely a foolish question.

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Fern(Mi)

12-29-2004 05:43:12




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 Re: Electric Fence controller in reply to HobbyFarmerInWI, 12-28-2004 15:31:48  
Tom has told you right.
A caution: Do not use any exsisting ground rods grounding Electrical panel or service, telepone service, televission cable sevice. Keep all the grounds seperate.

Electrical feed back is serious busness and comes from combining all such some services to a single rod. A deffernent NO NO!

Couple suggestions: Establish grtound rod (at least the first one? under a building"s eve for the waters help to ground the fence ground. @nd, I auger holes as deep as I may with 2" auger. To that depth I add ten feet and drive used 1/2" galv water pipes.

Use what ever this helps. Keeps our Shorthorns in.
My Say.
Fernan

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TomWNC

12-28-2004 18:52:35




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 Re: Electric Fence controller in reply to HobbyFarmerInWI, 12-28-2004 15:31:48  
The red terminal goes to the fence and the black one goes to a ground rod. The fence is only as good as the ground, so do it good. I use eight foot ground rods (3) from the electric supply store spaced ten feet apart. Also put them where the soil tends to stay damp if possible. I ran mine in the drip line of the roof of the shed the controller is in.

If the cattle are not used to electric fence it would be a good idea to run some in the area they are in now and let them learn that it bites and not to mess with it. Run some part way across the middle of the field so they have to encounter it and learn to go around it. It should only take a few days to learn the lesson.
Good luck,
Tom

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Mattlt

12-29-2004 05:36:28




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 Re: Electric Fence controller in reply to TomWNC, 12-28-2004 18:52:35  
Good advice to get them accustomed to the fence. I tear strips of old white rags and tie them on the fence about every 10 feet. This helps with visibility of the fence. It also works with the "curiosity" of the animal - many times they will walk up and sniff it, getting a surprise. Hey, it's effective.

Also, no one has mentioned that you shouldn't run a live fence wire through a hole in the barn wall, nor should a fence wire be located too close to the barn wall. Reason being, some fencers (Weedburners) produce enough heat to actually start a fire.

I've seen many fencers located under the eaves, on the outside of structures. Typically not on the barn either, usually on some less expensive building that has electric service.

Make sense?

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Bob

12-28-2004 16:16:53




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 Re: Electric Fence controller in reply to HobbyFarmerInWI, 12-28-2004 15:31:48  
Connect the black terminal to a GOOD ground... one or more deeply driven ground rods.

Connect the red terminal to the insulated fence wire. If lightning is common in your area, use a lightning arrestor between the fence charger and the fence. There is a terminal on those that needs to be connected to the ground system, also.

Here's a link to helpful electric fence information:

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RayP(MI)

12-28-2004 15:56:36




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 Re: Electric Fence controller in reply to HobbyFarmerInWI, 12-28-2004 15:31:48  
Well, typically, the fencer has two output terminals. One is connected to the fence which is insulated from ground. The other terminal is connected to a well placed ground rod. The animal completes the circuit between the hot wire, and ground - gets a shock, and hopefully leaves the fence alone! Not familiar your unit, and what terminal goes where.....



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HobbyFarmerInWI

12-28-2004 19:11:13




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 Re: Electric Fence controller in reply to RayP(MI), 12-28-2004 15:56:36  
As always, thanks for the advice. I will ground the wire on the steel rod that grounds the lighting rod on top of the barn.



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Bob

12-28-2004 19:45:29




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 Re: Electric Fence controller in reply to HobbyFarmerInWI, 12-28-2004 19:11:13  
I would do as Tom says, and put in a good ground system separate of the lightning rod grounds for the electric fencer.



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