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ShepFL

12-28-2004 12:44:38

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Santa failed to deliver the requested free standing floor drill press. He, er, she did concede to a small bench top for less cost.

Are these bench top models useful or should I continue saving my pennies for a floor model? Tired of vice and hand drill.
Thanks

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Roland

12-31-2004 15:28:41

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to ShepFL, 12-28-2004 12:44:38

Does anyone know of a German built Bench Top Drill Press Compareable to my Milwaukee Hammer Drill made in Germany?

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Davis In SC

12-29-2004 09:23:45

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to ShepFL, 12-28-2004 12:44:38

Good used drill presses can be found. Clausing & older Delta are good ones. I recently bought a nice 15 inch Clausing floor model for $100.00. It is the variable speed model, 3-phase, but seller gave me a single phase motor that will work, if I ever want to take to a shop with single phase only. It pays to check want-ads, attend auctions, flea markets, etc. I stumble up on some great deals..... Regards, Davis

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wdTom

12-28-2004 18:23:39

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to ShepFL, 12-28-2004 12:44:38

The main advantage to a floor model is that youdon't need a bench to put it on. Rarely do you need that much depth or clearance for drilling holes that a floor model is necessary. Look for a bench model with a idler pully for 12 or 16 speeds and look for one that has the slowest speeds,especially if you want to drill much larger than 1/2" or 5/8" in steel. For wood work you don't need the double reduction as much, but it is just about mandatory for metal work. Slow is better for metal, and a double reduction will be able to be speed up as fast as a single reduction for wood or small drills.

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MAC,IL

12-28-2004 14:06:24

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to ShepFL, 12-28-2004 12:44:38

I have had a rockwell 4 speed bench/tabletop for over 20 years. Use the heck out of it and really like it. The original table was a little small for me so I had a larger piece of 3/8" metal cut, countersunk the bolts and bolted it to the existing tabletop to give me considerably more work area. This also makes it easier to clamp objects down. Replaced the taper chuck one time.

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Ray M41

12-28-2004 13:49:37

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to ShepFL, 12-28-2004 12:44:38

I have a Delta 8" bench type. Rarely use my hand drills any more. Bits last a lot longer, too. Had problems keeping the tapered chuck on. I fixed that problem and never had any more trouble with it. The lowest speed is still a little fast. I just need to go get some different sized pulleys.

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Chuck - WI

12-29-2004 06:08:35

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to Ray M41, 12-28-2004 13:49:37

Ray - same drill -- same problem w/ chuck dropping out .. how did you fix it

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Ray M41

12-29-2004 11:08:08

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to Chuck - WI, 12-29-2004 06:08:35

I clamped a 3/16" drill bit in my vise grips and stood it up under the spindle. With the spindle turning I drilled out a tap hole. I tapped the hole for a 1/4" set screw. I then went down and bought a chuck that includes a set screw. Put it all together and no more problems.

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TimV

12-29-2004 12:04:01

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to Ray M41, 12-29-2004 11:08:08

I have a Harbor Freight-type floor model and the chuck kept falling out. A dab of loc-tite fixed it.

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oldart

12-29-2004 18:32:03

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to TimV, 12-29-2004 12:04:01

on taper fits use alittle chalk from black board draw a couple of lines on shaft put chuck on tap in place with a block willstay inplace can still take off when needed ilearned that trick back in the 1940's art.

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Bob

12-28-2004 16:22:10

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to Ray M41, 12-28-2004 13:49:37

I agree with the need for lower speeds.

On one drill press I have, I mounted a burned-out double shaft motor on the motor mount, and then made a mount to piggy-back the drive motor to the "dummy" motor, which is then used as a countershaft. The motor mount is hinged, and a belt tightener lever makes quick work of speed changes.

I installed a stepped pulley on the motor and the bottom shaft of the "dummy" motor, giving 5 additional speeds, 2 of them slower than the original setup.

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The Original Scott

12-28-2004 13:14:48

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to ShepFL, 12-28-2004 12:44:38

Shep,

I started out with a Delta DP200 Bench Top unit ($99.00) at Amazon but it was too difficult to muscle around for larger jobs and pieces of stock. I finally bit the bullet and bought a Delta 17-965 free standing unit ($399.99) at Amazon and never looked back.

I purchased a mobile base for the 17-965 and move it around when needed, then tuck it in the corner when not. I use my small bench top unit for the little stuff, but its main task is as a drum sander for woodworking.

Amazon will give you free freight, but I got mine thru Northwest Power Tools (AKA Coeur D' Alene PowerTool, remember them?) for a better price and also a free mortising attachment. Delta makes a nice variable speed unit, but for $350.00 I can flip a belt every now and then.

Scott in Sandpoint

CDA PowerTool

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12-28-2004 17:15:38

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to The Original Scott, 12-28-2004 13:14:48

I bought the same Delta drill press and all I can say is what a cheap piece of Chinese junk! It's ok if .02" of chuck run-out is acceptable(try drilling a round hole with that!). I replaced the morse taper and the chuck with top notch Jacobs components and then changed out the lumpy belts after they fell apart. After that, it was fine for woodworking, but it's nothing I would use for repeated heavy drilling(greater than 1/2") in metal. I hate to say it, but you are better off buying the Chinese Harbor Freight verson for $169 than the Chinese Delta for $399. Heck, for the money, you can buy 2 Harbor Freight drill presses (1 to use and 1 for parts) + a good chuck and spend the same as the Delta!

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D.L.

12-28-2004 18:24:05

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to e, 12-28-2004 17:15:38

I would have to agree with you... I have some old Rockwell machinery... REALLY nice old iron... some older Delta machinery... made in US & even some in Taiwan... still pretty good stuff... but, once they moved the majority of their manufacturing to China, all became boat anchors, as far as I'm concerned. I bought a 20" floor model drill press (had seen the same machine (and liked it) a few years earlier, just didn't get around to buying it when I should have) a couple years ago... what a disappointment! I use it for wood working, but wouldn't even consider it for something that requires any degree of accuracy. They've had a number of shake-ups @ corporate in the past few years & were recently bought out by B & D... it's too late for Delta, but if there are any Porter Cable tools you've wanted, better get 'em before it's too late on those too!
regards, D.L.

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Stickler

12-31-2004 17:45:50

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to D.L., 12-28-2004 18:24:05

I think it's just the luck of the draw with the chinese stuff, some turn out great, some are junk. It's like they have zero quality control. my 16-1/2" derill press is a delta from about 20 years ago. I dunno if it's old enough to be US made or Taiwanese, but I have no complaints with it. It came with a good Jacobs chuck.

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lucass

12-28-2004 13:08:07

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to ShepFL, 12-28-2004 12:44:38

i have both and i find myselff using the benchtop more if the peice isnt to tall to fit into it.i think itsbecause i can lay the bits on the bench and my benchtop will turn alot slower than the floor model. but my floor model has a larger worktable. i think slow turning is very important if you drill alot of steel or big holes in wood.. lucas

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big fred

12-28-2004 13:03:02

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to ShepFL, 12-28-2004 12:44:38

I got a cheap bench top drill press many years ago, use it quite often. Biggest problem is that the post is fairly close to the drill, so you're limited in "throat depth" and you're also quite limited in how tall your work can be. Still, it's a heap better than a hand drill and a vise.

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RustyFarmall

12-28-2004 12:55:52

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to ShepFL, 12-28-2004 12:44:38

Weld together 3 steel wheel rims from an old chevy or ford car, 14 or 15 inch, doesn't matter as long as they are all the same. Set your bench top drill press on top of this "base", secure it to the base, and it will be almost as good as a floor model drill press.

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dr.sportster

12-29-2004 09:26:42

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Re: Drill Press - Bench Top in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-28-2004 12:55:52

A bench top can be used like a floor model if the base is secured by turning the head 90 degrees to the side.A larger workpiece can be supported by the floor below.

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