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jdoak

12-24-2004 06:19:02




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Anyone know where I can find some coal to use in an old time forge? There are still a lot of need of a forge in a farm shop.




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John PA

12-27-2004 07:52:32




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
I think you need Anthracite. Plenty of it here in PA



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Leroy

12-26-2004 07:42:58




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
It has been years since my old forge was fired up but all we could get was soft coal the same as home heating coal but the blacksmiths around used a hard coal, produced a higher heat but for what we did we could burn up the metal by getting it too hot. When it was fired up if we had to quit for a while such as lunch we would put a block of wood in middle of firepot and cover with coal and would still be a good fire 2-3- hours later. Mine is a small portable one Dad bought from Wards

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bgiese

12-26-2004 04:59:55




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
was in Pittsburgh Pa recently saw a coal sales along a rural rd outside of Pittsburgh looked to be a home heating sales but may work for a forge



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FarmerDave

12-25-2004 12:06:10




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
Are you setting a forge up or restocking your coal? What do you intend to do with this heat?



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dave

12-24-2004 22:43:20




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
It's around 80 bucks a ton here in southwest Virginia,all you can haul.



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Leland

12-24-2004 19:23:25




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
Check along rail road tracks near any power plant ,they run 10-15 trains a week by my home and they always seen to have a derail and those alum cars just split wide open. and there is about a 2-300 tons of coal piled up near house and they just leave it there for ever I get about 500 lbs a year to heat shop.



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BayouSmith

12-25-2004 07:06:36




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to Leland, 12-24-2004 19:23:25  
Depends on what type coal they burn at that power plant. I work for a power company and have access to mountains of Powder River Basin sub-bituminous coal railed in from Wyoming. These coals are very good for pulverizing into dust to burn in a power plant boiler, but are not very good for 'smithing. They don't coke well (or at all, for that matter), are too low in BTU (8-9000 BTU/Lb) for 'smithing, and they crumble up and make so many sparks when burning as to be downright dangerous. Lignite is even worse - might as well burn stuff from the compost pile (I have tried northwest Louisiana and east Texas lignite). You need good bituminous coal - metallurgical coal. Look for blacksmithing websites for sources or ask a local smith. Many serious smiths have access to clubs that have bought good coal in bulk and may sell some in smaller lots at their cost. Railroad track coal might be an option IF it is good forging coal to start with.

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John in Nebraska

12-24-2004 19:03:25




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
If you go to the blacksmithing site Anvilfire.com and use the pull down menu, Coal Scuttle, it lists all sorts of suppliers for blacksmithing supplies. If smoke is a problem where you live, if one "cokes" coal at another location, then uses this "coke", there isn"t nearly the smoke as it burns quite clean. john in nebraska



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buickanddeere

12-24-2004 13:42:12




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
Manning's building supplies in Blyth Ontario has stoker and lump coal by the ton. There are dealers in Burlington and Hamilton Ontario as well in the phone book under "coal". All supply hard anthracite coal.



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SAm in NS

12-24-2004 13:11:37




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
Depending on where you are if smell/smoke is an issue you may find you're better off with charcoal. I know that's what the blacksmith near me uses. Hope this helps, SAm in NS



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big jt

12-24-2004 09:42:23




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
Skei Coal & Salt in Ames, Iowa has it. 50 lb bags and I think he can do bulk also. Also has large lump coal for Steam Engines.

Don't have a PH # handy at the puter but can get if you need.

HTH

jt



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Jim@concordfarms.

12-24-2004 07:57:32




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
Okay, try this web site for coal. Was suggested by someone else on here a few weeks ago.

www.centaurforge.com



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Jim@concordfarms

12-24-2004 07:54:18




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
Someone else asked the same question somewhere on this web site within the last month and got several replies with sources. I'll do a little snooping around and see if I can find it. Jim.



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Joel Harman

12-24-2004 06:44:15




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to jdoak, 12-24-2004 06:19:02  
try the feed store



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Maine Fordson

12-25-2004 14:31:47




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 Re: blacksmith coal in reply to Joel Harman, 12-24-2004 06:44:15  
I used to buy anthracite coal by the 50-lb sack at Agway. You get a lot of heavy green smoke until it cokes, but then put it off to the side, pull out the clinkers & store some of that coke up, just in case you need to do some tempering.

I"d be awful surprised if your local Yellow Pages couldn"t point you in the right direction, either to a feed store, or maybe even an industrial-supply place.

Good luck, and happy hammering!

-- Maine Fordson

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