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air compressor question (what to buy)

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bc

12-18-2004 20:05:55




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looking to buy an air compressor. i want it to run the typical tools and also a blast cabinet. what would you suggest and what cfm do i need. i have about 5-600 $$$ to spend maybe a little more.

thanks for the help




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Georgia Boy

12-22-2004 19:20:39




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to bc, 12-18-2004 20:05:55  
I bought a Campbell-Hausfeld 60 gallon air compressor from Lowes that cost right at $600, and have been very happy with it. I run a small bead blast cabinet, paint guns and all my air tools with no problem. It was the larger twin-V piston 60 gallon model and has been replaced with a three piston version, which looks to be a pretty good buy. These compressors are great for occasional home-shop use.

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Fred Zelch

12-19-2004 13:38:13




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to bc, 12-18-2004 20:05:55  
I agree with the previous posters. I don't do any blasting so I didn't need the volume, my coleman 5 horse works OK for painting and running 1 air tool at a time. I use my pressure washer for stripping paint, dirt, grease and grime. The washer is 3200psi with a 13 horse Honda engine. Does fine.
Fred



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CNKS

12-19-2004 09:14:07




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to bc, 12-18-2004 20:05:55  
In that price range, for blasting, it will be minimal -- you need 17-25 cfm, and more (commecial people use 300 cfm and up). For $600 you will get one with maybe 10 cfm.



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rustyj14

12-19-2004 08:47:49




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to bc, 12-18-2004 20:05:55  
When buying an air compressor, its not how high of pressure it will pump--no, no,--its the SCFM. Which stands for Cubic feet per minute, which means how fast the pump will recover the air you are using , either for sand blasting, painting, or air tools! Most air compressors are advertised as being able to pump 125 lbs. or so! But, thats a "fooler"! And, the size of the tank plays a part, too! Those little compressors (pancake type) are designed to use for nailers, etc. But, they will put out 125 lbs. or so! but the air is gone immediately after you open the air line to try to paint, or run a sander, air wrench, etc.! The sand blaster requires a large amount of air in order to do the blasting! The recovery time in air make-up is critical. Therefore, buy a compressor that gives high SCFM, and a high recovery rate! There's nothing worse than waiting for the compressor to make up the air pressure/ volume, And having to stand around, waiting for it to recover. And then, having to go out and buy the correct compressor, to do what you want it to do! Go see the local automotive paint supply store, the one that sells auto paint supplies, etc. Then buy what they suggest! You'll be happier in the long run! by: rustyj

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air man joe

12-21-2004 13:19:10




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to rustyj14, 12-19-2004 08:47:49  
You are correct in stating that CFM is important, as is tank size. However, do not disregard psi. Some large impacts and other air powered tools require additional pressure to develop adequate torque. If you are going to be multi-tasking with this compressor buy one which is well suited for many needs. Finally, stop using !!!!! ! after every sentence! Not only does it detract from your credibility, it is atrocious to read.

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lucass

12-19-2004 06:11:08




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to bc, 12-18-2004 20:05:55  
if your going to use it alot,every day sandblasting you will be better off getting a 2 stage quincy with 80 gallon tank,but 600.00 wont buy it,so get the biggest tank ,most cylinders cambell hausefeild you can get for 600.00 . lucas



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Ramrod

12-19-2004 04:35:06




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to bc, 12-18-2004 20:05:55  
The kicker is the blast cabinet, it needs a lot of air. Buy yourself a 3 cylinder compressor. My 3 cylinder upright 60 gallon CH compressor came from Lowes for about $700, and it really does the job. You'll need 220v to run it.

Ramrod



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txblu

12-19-2004 05:42:22




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to Ramrod, 12-19-2004 04:35:06  
My 60 gal upright also came from Lowe's. It's only twin cylinder single stage, but it kicks out at 125 psig and puts out enough cfm's to suit me. $300. (220 also).

Might want to understand if you need air pressure higher than 125. A 2 stage compressor will get you to 175 like if you are trying to fill OTR truck tires to 100 psig. But for most farmin probably don't need that extra complexity and expense.

Mark

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bc

12-19-2004 20:39:32




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to txblu, 12-19-2004 05:42:22  
thanks for the help guys.... i am starting a resto project on and old oldsmobile and i want to be able to sand blast some of the smaller parts and run the tools to take it apart. i also plan to hang a bunch of base boards and crown molding. i think it would be easier to use a nailer rather than a hammer to hang it all. not to mention the time saved.

i do not want to spend an arm and a leg for a compressor and have over kill. however, i do not want to buy to small of a compressor and wish i would have went with a larger one..

so thanks again for the input!

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Big Jim

12-19-2004 23:00:05




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to bc, 12-19-2004 20:39:32  
The basic rule is that it is impossible to buy too big of compressor (well, limited by your electric system) I have a 7.5 horse 2-stage in the shop that I bought used for less than $500. I also have a little portable, 120 volt one that I gave less than $100 for from Harbor Freight. The little one is nice for running nail guns or carring over to the neighbor's house when he has a flat. Once you have a decent compressor, you will keep finding more and more things to do with it.

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Smoky

12-22-2004 08:56:59




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 Re: air compressor question (what to buy) in reply to Big Jim, 12-19-2004 23:00:05  
Buy the biggest 2 stage compressor with the biggest tank that you can afford. I like cast iron over aluminum and Ingersoll Rand over some of the others. Check Sears as well as Lowe's and Home Depot. You should expand your budget to 800 to 900 dollars. Most air compressors are sort of like welders in that the cheap units will have a very low duty cycle. As you go up in price, the duty cycle increases. The cheaper units are not built to run continuously as you wait for them to build up enough air pressure to spray, sand or blast. From my experience, I believe the 2 stage units will hold up the best over time. The oil less diaphram types are only made for intermittent operation and are not suitable for your blast cabinet.

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