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Pole Barn lighting ?

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Bob in GA

12-17-2004 13:28:58




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I am buying a farm that has a pole barn on it. I would like to get it lit better. I have some questions about lighting. Some of the ceiling is 25 ft high, and other is about 10 foot.

1. What kind of lighting-metal halite, sodium etc.
2. What is a re-strike light?
3. Some lights are listed as 277 volt. How is this achieved? A booster transformer from 240 or what.

Thanks

Bob




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Kevin Bismark

12-17-2004 17:19:13




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 Re: Pole Barn lighting ? in reply to Bob in GA, 12-17-2004 13:28:58  
Metal Halide is a type of bulb, most of the new ones we put up now seem to be metal halide, but still do high pressure sodium here and there, high pressure sodium, low pressure sodium, metal halide, mercury vapor, metal halide gives off a more "white" light, high pressure sodium is an orange tint to it.. Since these type of fixtures do not come on right away when they are turned on they have a restrike option on some models, just another light built into it that will give some light off when it's turned on before the main lamp is ready to fire. 277 volts is a 3 phase deal, you know, they have 480 volts three phase line to line, and 277 volts to ground, or neutral, so you can run the big motor loads on 480 volts and the lighting on 277, lots of good reasons to do it if you have a 277/480 Wye system which you don't have. But when you get Hi-bay light fixtures most of them have a multi voltage ballast if you order them that way, so you can run them at 120v,208v,240v,277v,and some at 480v,but not many, you most likely have 120/240v single phase, then when you get to small commercial industrual places you see a 120/208v Wye system, then when they start to have motors or an old existing service it can be a 120/240v Delta with a high leg, then it's 277/480v Wye system again, even had some equipment from Europe that required a 220/380v Wye system, and some from Canada that were 575 v. I would just make sure that the any fixtures that you get are enclosed so that if a bulb fails and explodes or cracks in the fixture the hot fragments will not fall down and start a fire, lots of options when you order these if you get them from an electrical supplier, but they won't be cheep either, but then again a couple big ones will throw off a lot of light to

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Big Jim

12-19-2004 22:38:30




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 Re: Pole Barn lighting ? in reply to Kevin Bismark, 12-17-2004 17:19:13  
If you come across a really good deal on 277 volt fixtures, you can use them with what"s called a "Buck or Boost" transformer. They are made just to solve that problem and come in a wide variety of sizes.



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Gerald J.

12-17-2004 17:14:16




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 Re: Pole Barn lighting ? in reply to Bob in GA, 12-17-2004 13:28:58  
Metal Halide works, high pressure sodium vapor gives more light per kwh. HO type 8' fluorescent with ballasts for cold weather work.

Metal Halide, mercury vapor, and sodium vapor lights shut off at a power glitch and won't come back on for ten to 15 minutes until they cool. Restrike is trying to get around that but may only accomplish that with an auxiliary quartz lamp. Fluorescents aren't as energy efficient as high pressure sodium, but relight as soon as the power comes back. I use them in my barn.

Gerald J.

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Lights went out

12-17-2004 19:11:02




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 Re: Pole Barn lighting ? in reply to Gerald J., 12-17-2004 17:14:16  
There was even a song about the Night the Lights Went out in Ga...



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