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Coloken

12-11-2004 06:41:48




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I want to be as gentle as possible with this suggstion and am not steping on any one. It is posible that some do not know how to reduce the size of their pictures so they can post them. 640 by 480 is about as big as can be seen with out scrowling. One of the best (free) programs is at irfanview.com less than a meg to download My favorite is paintshop pro Some of these programs might be a little to much for some, so if you know of a simple one to resize, suggest it.
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IHC Red

12-12-2004 22:40:05




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to Coloken, 12-11-2004 06:41:48  
I really recommend this one. I like to save pictures I take of our travels but they take up a lot of space if I don't reduce them. The following tool (free from Microsoft) is a very fast way to resize image files quickly.

After you install, all you have to do is right click on one or several image icons and a new "Resize Pictures" item will be displayed on the menu. It has a quick default 640x480 or you can choose from advanced options. It's much faster than resizing with Paint or any other tool I've seen.

This one is worth a look.

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Bill Drew

12-11-2004 19:56:57




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to Coloken, 12-11-2004 06:41:48  
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IrfanView is a nice set of utilities, but like all programs with a fair amount of power, it does take a bit of time to learn. Not as much as a full-fledged editor though.

Keep in mind that picutures for the web have two sizes: the 640x480 (or less) pixel size and the file size. Having a slow dial-up connection makes me really like small file size pictures.

Play with the amount of JPEG compression in whatever program you use. Something under 40% is normally good enough for the web. This one is 29Kbytes with the JPEG compression at about 10%

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big fred

12-11-2004 17:21:13




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to Coloken, 12-11-2004 06:41:48  
My favorite for years has been Lview. Unfortunately, I haven't seen a free download of it for a long time. I have an old version that worked well with WIN3.1, and use that. Only downside is that it has to truncate filenames to 8 characters since it was written for the old Windows.



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pjw

12-12-2004 06:35:36




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to big fred, 12-11-2004 17:21:13  
I too like Lview. It was one of the best programs for it size. Unfortunately I now run NT and that old program won't work. Anyone know how to get the Lview to work in the new windows application?



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Charles (in GA)

12-11-2004 14:13:56




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to Coloken, 12-11-2004 06:41:48  
Many.... virtually all... digital cameras come with some software to manage the pics. One very common one that I know Toshiba and Agfa have both used is Serria Image Expert.

While viewing the pic, select Image/Resize and then specify the size. It maintains the aspect ratio and the pic looks OK. Then you save it using a new name and you are done.

You are probably laundering the pic thru your camera managment software anyhow, so why not use it.

I always reduce pics I post online or email, to about 640x480 because I realize many people are still stuck with a phone modem, and that is as slow as they come.

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Dale Olson

12-11-2004 13:20:55




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 Re: Automatic resizing for pictures in reply to Coloken, 12-11-2004 06:41:48  
If you want to see the pictures without scrolling, there is a MS Internet Explorer option that automatically "resizes" photos to fit the window. Go to "Tools", "Internet Options" and click on the "Advanced" tab. Scroll down to the "Multimedia" section and make sure the "Enable automatic Image Resizing" is checked. You just click on it to turn the check on/off.



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Redmud

12-11-2004 10:42:01




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to Coloken, 12-11-2004 06:41:48  
Dang, I just wish I could post a big picture.



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kraigWY

12-11-2004 10:34:33




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to Coloken, 12-11-2004 06:41:48  
I'm guilty, big time. I don't know how, and have posted alot of great big pictures. I promise I will learn before I post anymore pictures.

Sorry



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Rod (NH)

12-11-2004 11:33:51




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to kraigWY, 12-11-2004 10:34:33  
Hi Kraig,

Don't feel guilty. There are many who don't fully understand the problem or how to deal with it. You are certainly not alone.

Here's my take on the matter:

The newer digital cameras usually take megapixel sized images. They generally are capable of several different resolutions (sizes) in the camera setup routine but they usually have the default as their maximum resolution. That maximum is usually way too large for most web posting or email. It's great for printing out large format (8x10 or so) prints but not for posting. Images that are too large cause excessive download time to view and also require most viewers to have to scroll around both vertically and horizontally to see the whole picture. Those people with dialup connections generally will not wait the lengthy time required to see the large image. Plus if large images are embedded in post threads, it just makes it more difficult for the dialup users to read the posts in the thread, having to wait for the large images to load.

I suspect most viewers of the tractor forums have their computer screen resolutions set to no more than 800x600 pixels. For that resolution, a maximum image size of 640x480 should permit viewing w/o having to scroll around and is faster to download than a larger image. I have found that 400x300 is also a pretty good size for posting. I think that if you upload your images to the image archives on this site they are automatically downsized to a smaller size - sometimes too small :o). If you link them in from another site, they are not adjusted. As an example, here's an image that has a size of 400x300 pixels and is linked in from my own site:
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Most image editing software has a lot of bells and whistles in it as Coloken suggests. If you want to investigate something that is free and simple to use, you might want check out dedicated resizing software. I ran across this one a while back. I cannot vouch for it personally since I haven't tried it out but it seems to be simple and to the point. Part of the interest in these forums is in images. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. So don't give up. You'll do just fine after you get the hang of it. It only seems difficult the first time.

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Coloken

12-11-2004 11:27:20




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to kraigWY, 12-11-2004 10:34:33  
Kraig,, please keep posting and post often, no matter what size... I/we like pictures, no matter what.



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greenbeanman

12-11-2004 07:46:41




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 Re: Tool for pictures in reply to Coloken, 12-11-2004 06:41:48  
Thanks! While I've not posted any pictures I do need a good photo program. The one I have isn't a very good one in that it won't work without my input. Expect I just need to work more with it. This one sounds like I may prefer it instead.



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Roger P.

12-11-2004 12:14:06




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  Good News! You Already Have One. in reply to greenbeanman, 12-11-2004 07:46:41  
If you are using Windows, simply open Paint (Start---Programs---Accessories---Paint),

Click, File -- Open from the menu bar,and browse for your photo (make sure you have All Picture Files selected in the drop down box).

Open the picture file.

Click on Edit in the menu bar.

Click on Select All. You will have a dotted line around your picture.

Now select Image from the menu bar, and click on Stretch/Skew. You can type in the size of the picture (in percent) that you want to reduce it to (i.e. 40% horizontal, 40% vertical). If you don't like the results, just select Edit from the menu bar, and click Undo. Once you have the picture the size you want it, save it with a unique file name, such as JD Carburetor reduced image, or something descriptive. Make sure that you also have the colour depth that you want for the picture selected in the drop down box before you save. You can even save it as a black and white if you like. Reducing colour depth makes the file size smaller, and can be done without sacrificing too much detail if done correctly.

I am sure Apple users and Linux/Unix users have a similar program at their disposal.

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Leroy

12-11-2004 15:26:46




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 Re: Good News! You Already Have One. in reply to Roger P., 12-11-2004 12:14:06  
Where do you have the picture to start with? In a digital camara? Print picture with a scanner? Other?



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Roger P.

12-11-2004 16:09:10




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 Re: Good News! You Already Have One. in reply to Leroy, 12-11-2004 15:26:46  
The photo must be saved to your hard drive, or be taken from a digital camera. If you find a picture on the Internet you would like to use, put your mouse pointer on it, right click, and pick Save Picture As.. Save the picture on your hard drive someplace where you can find it, with a name you can recognize. I save mine in My Documents--My Pictures. Now, when you go to Paint, go to File----Open, then browse to wherever you saved the file, and click on it to open. Remember to have All Picture Files selected in the drop down box for File Types. Most digital cameras will appear like a hard drive in My Computer, so taking files off of it is straightforward. My Agfa CL20 appears like this, is just has to be powered up to download files off it.

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Leroy

12-12-2004 06:57:20




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 Re: Good News! You Already Have One. in reply to Roger P., 12-11-2004 16:09:10  
I have a HP 315, 2.1 MP,2.5x digital zoom (That I have yet to figure out how to use) 8 MB card, 1/8-inch LCD that is about 5-7 yeard old. The book was not very good at explaining if you did not already know what they were talking about and I do not know where the book got to. Should this work like the newer higher priced camaras? I can get the pictures on the hard drive of the Newer computor, windows 98 but after the second hard drive replacement I can't even get on line with it. Works only to print the pictures out or with my scanner or dockuments I make. The older computor that I am using all the time is a windows 95 and the camara will not work with windows 95.

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Roger P.

12-12-2004 14:35:43




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 Re: Good News! You Already Have One. in reply to Leroy, 12-12-2004 06:57:20  
Sounds like you need to setup your internet connection on the newer computer to match the one on the older machine. It wouldn't be hard. Then you could download the camera manual from HP and off you go.



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John *.?-!.* cub owner

12-11-2004 13:46:34




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 Re: Good News! You Already Have One. in reply to Roger P., 12-11-2004 12:14:06  
Also irfanview.com has a free downloadable program that works good and is easy to use for resizing adjustments, etc.



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