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Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ?

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ED [GA]

11-28-2000 19:09:49




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Wondering if anyone out there has experience with any of the waste oil heaters [not home made,but the factory ones] if they do what they claim looks as away to dispose of oil and heat the shop too.,i've read glowing testomionies in the ads [naturaly] but haven'ttalked to a owner himself.




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STMTS

11-30-2000 19:31:30




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 Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to ED [GA], 11-28-2000 19:09:49  
We ran a Clean Burn in a 70X125 shop with a 1000 gal tank and we would run around 3000-4000 gallons, it heated good when it was going and they seem to burn more than they say,and it was usually off every morning and the shop was cold,and they are a warm air heater NOT a hot air heater which means they have to circulate all of the air through it and heat it a little bit over and over until all the inside air is warmed up,takes awhile,and you have to clean ashes about twice a year,we don't use it any more

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Shepherd

11-29-2000 13:52:44




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 Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to ED [GA], 11-28-2000 19:09:49  
I have a factory waste oil furnace in my shop for 4 years now. It burns good and puts out more heat than any other heater I have seen in a shop. Mine has a 300gal tank on the floor and the burning unit is 10ft in the air over the tank. It works good, have to clean it a lot, keep the oil thin and water free, and it goes through a nozzle every other year. I guess it burns around 500gal of oil a year here in Va. The biggest problem is finding enough old oil to put into it. I keep it running at 55F all the time to keep the oil warm enough to burn good and turn it up when I am in the shop. Hope this helps some.

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Dean

11-29-2000 14:15:58




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 Re: Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to Shepherd, 11-29-2000 13:52:44  
There are a lot of people who would be glad to give you their drain oil. Run an ad in the paper saying that you recycle drain oil. There is a shop here that does that and they get all they can handle. In fact, you have to call ahead to make sure they have room in their tank!



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Shepherd

11-30-2000 05:26:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to Dean, 11-29-2000 14:15:58  
That is a good idea I had not thought of. I will try that. I have been going to the local farmers and getting their old oil. Problem we have here in Va is that we can not haul oil in larger than a 5 gal bucket on the back of your truck or you have to have a hazard materials license. That makes it hard to move a 55 gal drum of used oil around with out getting a ticket. I normally use my stock trailer to move drums of oil, no one can see them. Leave it to the DOT.

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bbott

11-30-2000 12:22:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to Shepherd, 11-30-2000 05:26:36  
Shepherd...

Watch out for your local environmental gestapo if you post an add about accepting other people's waste oil.. you may need special licensing as a waste handler if you accept oil from others

You'll have have environmentalist lawyers, regulators, politicians and various hippies jumping all over your A^^...

Any productive and practical activity is an affront to their sensibilities.

-- bb

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TomH

11-30-2000 16:46:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to bbott, 11-30-2000 12:22:16  
Also make sure the oil looks thick enough, not diluted with gasoline...



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shepherd

12-01-2000 06:05:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to TomH, 11-30-2000 16:46:24  
You guys have a point about putting ads out. That could lead to more trouble than it is worth. I will do some checking on laws kinda quite like before doing anything. As for the gas in the oil, that does not matter much. Actually you need to put gas or diesel in the mix to lighten it up so that it will burn better. The water and antifreeze in the oil is what concerns me, that puts the fire out if it gets to the burner.

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Mike

12-17-2000 18:20:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to shepherd, 12-01-2000 06:05:23  
I purchased a larger clean burn than the first I had which had 10,000 hours on it when traded for the bigger one it now has 2,000 hours on it and they both have been very trouble free if they are installed correctly.



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T_Bone

11-28-2000 21:33:43




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 Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to ED [GA], 11-28-2000 19:09:49  
Hi Ed I've worked on a few up in Washington as there popular there. They all work about the same.
Keep in mind that you have to use a "thinner" oil or gas some times to keep them flowing but thats automatic other than adding thin fuel from time to time. A straight oil furance can also be used by mixing waste oil with the heating oil. Bigger mess mixing your own but cheaper unit cost. Where most problems come in is the owner decides to try and use more waste oil than the system can handle, another words the oil gets to thick to flow. You can also use waste oil to run diesel engines and that includes fryer oil from the restraunts.

T_Bone

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Tyler(WA)

11-29-2000 09:12:39




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 Re: Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to T_Bone, 11-28-2000 21:33:43  
Old fryer oil will run or ruin a diesel engine. If you process it to remove the glycerine, it will run a diesel just fine. If you don't, plan on replacing your distribution pump and nozels regularly. Do an Internet search for "Bio-Diesel" to learn how to process the stuff.

I've seen several waste oil heaters in use. They work well and dispose of a lot of otherwise "hazardous" material. Most often I see these at wrecking yards as they have a problem disposing of transmission fluid, crankcase oil, differential oil and old gas. These all mix together to make a fuel that the bunker furnaces can burn and provide heat as a byproduct. They sure make for comfortable shops.

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T_Bone

11-29-2000 14:52:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Waste oil heater any know 'bout em ? in reply to Tyler(WA), 11-29-2000 09:12:39  
Hi Tyler, I have read the bio-diesel info on the web. Have your ever read the article written by Mercedes Benz in Brazil as there running diesels on pure vegetable oil with out any additives for the injection pump and had no pump failures in 30 million miles using several different engines in several different applications. There test vehicles were everyday, trucks, buses, cars, etc: driven by non-professionals as well as professionals, another words not driven in a controlled enviroment,(Test track). If I remember correct the article was written in 1990 or so but it wasn't on the net and I don't have a copy. :(

T_Bone

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