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A different buzzsaw

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Sawtooth

12-08-2004 15:48:42




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Years ago my dad built a buzzsaw. (for those that don't know, it has a huge sawblade powered by a tractor to cut firewood) He knew of someone that had a factory made one that went on a 3 point hitch and ran off a belt pulley attachment on the pto.. on a Ferguson 30 in his case) He measured and did a good job of building one like it. The disadvantages are having to handle heavy long tree limbs and that scary big blade (even with a guard around most of it) He told me he knew of a farmer that used a cracked blade that flew apart and killed the operator.

Now my idea... I've been to auctions where huge old chainsaws have been nearly given away. Not long ago there was an old 2 man saw (the bar was at least 4 feet long and a handle on the end for a helper) that sold for $5. Seems like a long bar like that could be recycled for use kind of like a buzzsaw- either powered by an electric motor or belted up engine- and some kind of mounting to control the movement of the bar. I've seen a "firewood processor" with a saw bar run by a hydraulic motor, after which the log section drops to a splitter bed as a conveyor moves the log ahead for the next cut. Anyone ever thought about using an old chainsaw bar like a buzzsaw?

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Mike Burdick

12-11-2004 11:12:58




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to Sawtooth, 12-08-2004 15:48:42  
A friend of my Dads had made a buzzsaw attachment that fit on his backhoe in place of the bucket. It had a 5-foot diameter blade that was hydraulic powered. He simply went up to a downed tree and cut it into 18 inches pieces. He also made an attachment that split the logs. These two items worked great and were controlled from inside the (warm) cab. No more hand labor for him.

As for stacking the wood�yep, he made a finger attachment and used the backhoe for that too!

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Sawtooth

12-11-2004 17:54:50




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to Mike Burdick, 12-11-2004 11:12:58  
Now that sounds like the way to go! Seems like some company would get in the act to make those to sell. I've worked in a shop that builds mowers on booms for mowing ditch banks etc. Wouldn't be hard to put a saw on those instead of a mower. We adapted pumps to run off the front of the crankshaft, some pumps were 70 g.p.m.

Also I've heard of woodsplitters on skid steers mounted "upside down" so they could be lowered on a log and split like you said- from the driver's seat. The sawblade idea sounds dangerous tho- if it ever broke I wouldn't even want to be in the cab. How about putting a big chainsaw bar on the backhoe boom?

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Mike Burdick

12-12-2004 08:27:40




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to Sawtooth, 12-11-2004 17:54:50  
Sawtooth,

He had the blade well protected with a cover that would slide back like they have on a Skil saw. The blade was like they use at a sawmill with replacable carbide teeth. A chain saw would need to be sharpened too often.

Regarding the splitter: He had it on a 6-inch diameter cylinder that had a 30-inch stroke and a beam that could take the max tonage using 5000 psi. He also had a 4-way wedge, so most logs were split to size in one stroke. I don't know what the gpm was, but it had a cycle time of about one second! He made one for a professional wood cutter and from what I heard, the woodcutter would also use it to cut down the tree. As you know, those backhoes can get thru some pretty rough terrain so it was a profitable investment for him.

All in all, I'd say he made it pretty darn safe!

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FarrviewSouth

12-09-2004 17:57:08




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to Sawtooth, 12-08-2004 15:48:42  
Although the poet Robert Frost has an excellent poem on the death of a young man with a cordwood saw and many on this forum are scared to death of them, I grew up with one on a Farmall H and am now using one on an 8N. I love the sound of it cutting wood, look forward to the fall of the year to use it. It will work three men into the ground when set up right. 3 cords an hour including a short break. It is not for sale :>

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david zipp

08-26-2005 18:14:58




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to FarrviewSouth, 12-09-2004 17:57:08  
would like to know how to attach cordwood saw to tractor.i can not figure out how to pick unit up to transport. have used saw in place but am unable to pickup and move with out removing belt and manualy picking up and chaining in place. any help you could give would be welcome. thanks.



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farmerbill in ny

12-09-2004 09:22:15




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to Sawtooth, 12-08-2004 15:48:42  
Type V8 chainsaw in your computer and see what comes up



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FarmerDave

12-09-2004 07:05:35




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to Sawtooth, 12-08-2004 15:48:42  
I got one of them old buzz saws in my machine shed. What would you think it was worth? I am afraid to use it.

I see these loads of sap wood going from the mill to the charcoal plant. Is that cheap wood what people cut up with them?



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Sawtooth

12-09-2004 15:31:46




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to FarmerDave, 12-09-2004 07:05:35  
I understand your statement about being afraid to use your buzzsaw. First thing, you need to be sure the blade is in good condition, and don't turn it too fast. The way they're used with long crooked limbs makes it easy to bind on the blade. I remember at times making the flat belt slip (at least it could). I think they were mainly used before the good lightweight chainsaws were available. Dad had the theory that chainsaws don't last long. Using a big long chainsaw bar instead would allow you to keep your work closer to the ground and not have to pick it up. And there wouldn't be the mass of round sawblade to contend with.

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RJ-AZ

12-08-2004 17:50:36




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to Sawtooth, 12-08-2004 15:48:42  
I saw an article in Mother Earth News years ago back when it was a hippie rag and not for yuppies. The chainsaw was mounted vertical , motor end down and a foot throttle you stepped on and a tilting bench much like the old Buzz saws.All set up kinda like a sawbuck.



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sonny2

12-17-2004 15:52:43




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 Re: A different buzzsaw in reply to RJ-AZ, 12-08-2004 17:50:36  
my grandfather mounted a buzz-saw on the rear of a homemade tractor. It was a "28 Chev. that he shortened the frame, put in 2 trans. and a Model T worm-drive diff. He mounted the saw so the pulley on the saw was in line with the left tire so all he had to do was jack up the wheel and put a short belt around the tire and up around the pulley. He used it to cut firewood from the slabs from his sawmill.

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