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Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter

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T_Bone

12-08-2004 15:34:04




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Hi All,

I wanna go into the firewood bizz in Phoenix. I just got back from buying about 1/2 cord of firewood (bed rail level) lwb, $120. Juniper and Oak mix.

That was the cost of the cheap wood. Max was $160 for the good stuff, I didn't ask!

While there I scooped out there log splitter. 5" bore with a 2-1/2" rod. Split like butter with no strain. They had the engine in a encloser so I couldn't see that. Manual start and Manual did a fine job splitting.

They had another splitter mounted on a self propelled buggy with lug tires, looked to be 4wd. That Manual followed the chainsaw guy around splitting. I was parked backwards so I couldn't see what size was.

There was probably 6 people waiting in line when I left and this is Phoenix, AZ folks!

So why did I buy the high priced wood? So the wife can keep warm while I'm back in the hospital for 8days. I have wood, just not cut and split. So if this Doctor can't help me Friday I'll be gone for 8 days.

T_Bone

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wdTom

12-09-2004 18:19:26




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to T_Bone, 12-08-2004 15:34:04  
I hope everything goes well for you T Bone. I will miss you and be thinking of you. Sure a lot of the others feel the same way too. Take care. Tom



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Ludwig

12-09-2004 12:02:43




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to T_Bone, 12-08-2004 15:34:04  
Whew, and I thought it was high around here.
If I had any wood worth putting in a fire I'd cut a couple cord each year for sale. Its going about $200 a cord for dry hardwood around here.
If I were building a splitter to do large amounts of splitting I might base it on a 1.5l VW diesel. Build a tube buggy with a hydrostatic transmission and run the splitter off the same pump. Wouldn't hardly burn any fuel, in a pinch you could even run it off of used veggie oil....

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T_Bone

12-09-2004 14:24:00




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to Ludwig, 12-09-2004 12:02:43  
Hi Ludwig,

I just happern to have a VW diesel engine for that very reason. Geez hard to beat 1.15gal/hr at 48hp.

It dawned on me this morning that the cylinder was a lift cylinder, may be from a small fork lift. Thats why it had such a large rod diameter in relation to the bore.

Well at $200/cord other places, I don't feel so bad. I guess I passed by the $100/cord days....lol

I'm looking for a 10hp@1800rpm, electric start diesel engine. I want to make a moveable hydraulic power unit that can be easy tranfered to a splitter, equipment trailer, concrete mixer, etc. That way all I have to invest in is more cylinders for the next project.

T_Bone

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Bernie in MA

12-09-2004 17:27:27




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to T_Bone, 12-09-2004 14:24:00  
I made a portable hydraulic power unit. If I ever get it done it will be an ATV also. I acquired a 2-cyl Wisconsin engine off a highway sander that has a hydraulic pump mounted on it. It powered the unloading chain and the spreaders. I mounted the unit on a Jeep frame, kept the frontend, cut off the frame in front of the rearend and put a straight axle on the back with a pair of ATV wheels close together in the center of the axle. I put a hydraulic motor chaindrive to one end of the axle so it's selfpropelled and will someday put a disc brake on the other end. I use it with quick disconnects on a punchpress in my shop I converted to a cylinder instead of the flywheel and also on my woodsplitter in the yard. A friend of mine looked at it and commented I had too much time on my hands, lol.

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Ludwig

12-09-2004 17:19:01




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to T_Bone, 12-09-2004 14:24:00  
I very narrowly missed on a diesel engine like that, had been a backup generator at a place I worked. We were moving and the new place had a new generator. One of my friends got his truck backed up first... Got it for FREE with the working genset. Don"t remember how big it was but it must have made a bunch of power...
He uses it sometimes for backup and sometimes powers it with used veggie oil and spins the meter backwards....

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Reido in MO

12-09-2004 11:55:36




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to T_Bone, 12-08-2004 15:34:04  
Best of luck to you T-Bone.
Reido



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john in la

12-09-2004 04:30:07




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to T_Bone, 12-08-2004 15:34:04  
T-Bone
I would say that is a cheep price for fire wood.
Seeing as your area has 4 trees per sq mile. And 3 of those trees are really a cactus. LOL....

Hope all goes well at the doctors.



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T_Bone

12-09-2004 13:01:46




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to john in la, 12-09-2004 04:30:07  
Hi john,

Thats about right. We have a tree called Pala Verde that blankets a good part of the desert. When it burns you can't stand the smell. Yet the indians used to travel for miles to get seed pods for making a flour for baking.

T_Bone



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Davis In SC

12-08-2004 21:02:49




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to T_Bone, 12-08-2004 15:34:04  
T_Bone, hope you are better soon...



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Kevin (FL)

12-08-2004 18:34:39




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to T_Bone, 12-08-2004 15:34:04  
T_Bone,

If you could get over to the FL panhandle, you can get all the firewood you could haul for free--of course you'd have quite a drive on your hands. Oak is down everywhere from the hurricane with no end in sight. FEMA crews have been through our area four separate times and we haven't even touched the back of our property.



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Hound

12-08-2004 18:21:06




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 Re: Firewood Bizz....Log Splitter in reply to T_Bone, 12-08-2004 15:34:04  
...hope everything works out alright. Nothing compares to wood heat. If you go in, maybe they can wire up a lap top, so you can stay connected. Hound



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