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Framin nailer at H.F.

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txblu

12-07-2004 07:26:02




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Harbor Freight has their 34 degree 2" to 3.5" framing nailer reduced from $200 to $90 on their www store. Bought one.

Works great and seems to be well built. Comes with protective case and all. With S&H got out for $95 and some change.....took 3 days for UPS to drop it on the door. Not bad at all.

But dunno about nails. Went to Home Depot this am and they had nails for 33 degree not 34 degree. Probably the degrees fell off in the translation from metric (China)to SAE. We'll see how they work. If not HF sells them and HD said they'd refund my $$$$$. Whadda deal.

Now for you "Buy American Folks"..... The American version is close to $300. The tool is not worth that to me. Therefore, I have put off the purchase since their inception as I was waiting till one came along that was priced to fit my usage and finances.

So cut me some slack. If I were a commercial guy, using it daily to make a ,there is no question what I would buy.

Nuf said.

Mark

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Bus Driver

12-08-2004 08:34:55




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to txblu, 12-07-2004 07:26:02  
I have some of the HF 16 and 18 gage brad nailers. Some of them are good and some are junk. The best one was the cheapest $14.95 and the most expensive is the poorest $134.95. Go figure.



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txblu

12-09-2004 05:59:49




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to Bus Driver, 12-08-2004 08:34:55  
I agree. Just cause it's high priced is no sigh it's the best one. Course some folks have more money than brains (no offense intended..... I think) and buy the highest price piece of whatever cause it's the highest price.

Take John Deere Tractors for example..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....LMAO couldn't resist that jab. Ok! Ok! I have two, and implements too, so I can be a Smart elic.

Mark

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Peanut

12-07-2004 12:04:11




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to txblu, 12-07-2004 07:26:02  
Hey Mark. I broke down and bought a Paslode gas framing nailer. It was $300 new. I could have bought a used one for around $200 but I wanted a warranty.

I gotta tell ya, the thing could have cost $500 and I would still be happy. The nailer is one of the best tools I could ask for. What a timesaver. The gas cartridges last a long time (and are cheap to replace) and the battery stays charged for a long time. I cringe when I think about framing with a hammer nowadays.

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txblu

12-07-2004 16:23:14




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to Peanut, 12-07-2004 12:04:11  
Peanut (Peaustauch in Coonass French from So. Louisiana..My wife is Coonass. I'm Texas redneck..... always wanted a French bed partner.....oops Kim I didn't say that..... yes I did.).

Hear you dude. Just so happens, I'm a hobby farmer, not makin a livin so I can go for the ole cheap O.

Glad your portable works for you. Learnin that machines are man friendly.

Best,

Mark



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john in la

12-07-2004 09:02:46




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to txblu, 12-07-2004 07:26:02  
So what kind of nails does it use ?????
Metal? Paper? Plastic? Glue?

I have a bostitch stick framer that uses metal. You need to watch it because it shoots the metal out.

A porter cable finish nailer that uses glue.
Best gun I own.

And a harbor freight small finish nailer that uses glue. (brad nailer)
Call this one MR. Jam cause it jams all the time.

I can under stand buying stuff from HF but I have had bad luck with them. I still buy a lot of stuff from them but if it has a moving part I buy name brand now.
Best of luck. I hope your new gun works out for you.

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txblu

12-07-2004 09:46:14




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to john in la, 12-07-2004 09:02:46  
Hi again John.

I started my pneumatic tool purchases with their $20 (on sale) stapler a couple to 3 years ago. Really developed a taste for that type product.

Then they put their 18 ga brad nailer on for the same price. Picked that up.....really neat with the free hand and all and no cracking and splintering of the wood. Instead of having to fool with hot glue to get the desired strength, I could now use Elmer's and pop a brad in it and go on to something else.

Kept watching for the framing nailer as my wrist has really gotten tired on the last several projects from swinging the 22 oz steel. Finally, this week it happened and shazam.

I posted this as a heads up to folks like me that don't plan to buy one for like reasons but for this price, might change their minds..... and it's advertised as commercial grade. Seems tough enough for around the house/shop/barn type chores.

Thanks for the well wishing.

Mark

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Vern-MI

12-07-2004 08:00:10




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to txblu, 12-07-2004 07:26:02  
Hi Mark

Your purchase will probably be alright for limited use. I doubt that the nailer will have any problem with a 1 degree offset in the nail pack.

I purchased a Duofast a few years ago and found that the most aggravating feature about the pneumatic nailers was the hose. If I was using it on the ground putting in flooring or setting up walls it wasn't to bad. However when I started to use it on top plates and rafters it became a real PITA as the hose was always tangled on something or had to be suspended along with the nailer by my hand. It was always affecting the way I was able to hold the nailer to the point where I could not use it at all on some applications. I broke down and bought a Paslode gas version and would never go back to the hose connected version.

The other thing I noticed is that the exhaust outlet seemed to be right at my ear when I was working up high. The exhast was able to be directed but it seems that after I adjusted it I would forget and get into a tight spot and there it would go again blasting in my ear.

Wear safety glasses ALWAYS as those sparks you see are really bits of metal flying off the nail/pin and can cause a loss of eyesight.

Happy nailing.

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txblu

12-07-2004 09:39:27




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to Vern-MI, 12-07-2004 08:00:10  
Thank you Vern.

I appreciate your candid comments and safety cautions. Current plans are to use in helping son-in-law on home addition this spring (being as I'll have free time now).

Hear you on the entanglement. I have a saying, that if it's connected to something, it'll tangle don't care what it is; water hose, air line, rope, you name it.

I did install a swivel at the end of the unit which helps to take some pressure off your wrist. I can see that prolonged use of it could be tiring.

What I like is the free hand. Since I work alone usually, this is great as I can hold the work and attach it too.

Thanks again,

Mark

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Kevin2

12-07-2004 11:08:23




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to txblu, 12-07-2004 09:39:27  
Hi Mark,

Last I looked, your new HF was essentially the same as the CH I bought myself 6 years back, I paid $179. back then and used it to build a 1200 sq ft cottage over a 1200 square ft garage/shop. I've been using Bostich glued nails with nary a jam, good gun! I had to laugh, as others experiences with noise and hoses are the same as mine. Throw in having to use a generator for compressor power and at times it seemed like a chore, but I guarantee even with all that, I saved 2-4 hours per DAY vs. hand hammering. I was so happy that I bought a roofing nailer just for that job. I too worked by myself with help from the wife setting the stud walls in place. I also used metal attached box nails for the sheathing and found that I had to lower the air pressure and only use one stick at a time to avoid jams, then it went well.
I also have a 18g brad nailer from HF bought cheap. I went through three of them before I figured out to use only 80-85 lbs of pressure, 90-100 would break their pistons or jam them down. Since then, I have used at least 2k 1 3/4" brads with no jams or breakage, not bad for $25.
I too would never consider HF stuff everyday construction tools, but why tie up hundreds of dollars in high dollar stuff to sit on the shelve 95% of the time?
Kevin

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txblu

12-07-2004 16:29:05




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 Re: Framin nailer at H.F. in reply to Kevin2, 12-07-2004 11:08:23  
Kevin,

We're brothers. Welcome to the land of the "Band of Brothers".

(Not meant disrespectfully. Spent 9 years in the USAF '59 - '68..... Had the Vietnam Pressure. Just smart enough to figure out how to keep it from being an experience).

Mark



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