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c p

12-01-2004 05:26:52




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I found a good price on a Hobart TIG welder. I am looking to do odd jobs with it. I was wondering how effective and hard is it to weld thick steel. I would like to build a small logging arch for a four-wheeler with it. The rest of it's use would be for small repair jobs and working on my snowmobiles. Any opionions? Would I be better of with a new MIG?




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farmweld

12-02-2004 10:23:07




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to c p, 12-01-2004 05:26:52  
personally i would get the mig welder, depending on thickness of the material. anywhere up to a 1/4 inch, just get the tig, but get a mig from there up. if the tig has a way to stick weld, then definitely get it. much more versitile, and the stick can weld much thicker material than tig or mig



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mike brown

12-01-2004 13:30:05




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to c p, 12-01-2004 05:26:52  
C.P. If this tig is a new one make sure it has enough capacity to do what you want. An air cooled torch may have limitations cmpared to water cooled. I've never used an air cooled.
If it is an older one features like a hot start timer which gives you half a second of increased amperage when you strike an arc, high frequency, air and water remote start make it a more versitile machine. I have a mig machine that I am not real happy with mainly because it isn't big enough to have the features better ones have that makes them more user friendly.
I use my 60's vintage miller gold star for stick welding steel and tig welding aluminum. It has all the bells and whistles and works very well but it is very large (800lbs) so it is basically stationary and the work gets brought to the machine.

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mike brown

12-01-2004 07:43:47




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to c p, 12-01-2004 05:26:52  
I bought an old miller tig this past summer. For thick steel use it as a stick welder. Mine does the best stick welding i've ever done. An old timer advised me us use the high frequency feature when stick welding. I hink it helps some with starts



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jhill

12-01-2004 12:00:55




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to mike brown, 12-01-2004 07:43:47  
I agree with you Mike. I also have an older Miller TIG. It is a great stick welder. I have TIG welded 3/16 in material with it.



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c p

12-01-2004 17:30:20




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to jhill, 12-01-2004 12:00:55  
It is a very large and older TIG welder. The size is what worries me. I don't have alot of room in the garage for large tools unless it will be useful. The guy that owns it has shown me weld on some thick steel. What kind of filler rods do you use when welding steel? I couldn't figure it out when he was explaining how it worked.



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Big Jim

12-01-2004 23:05:10




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to c p, 12-01-2004 17:30:20  
Large and Old usually means built like a tank with lots of copper. It may be one you pass on to your kids. I also have a "60"s vintage Miller that is the smoothest DC welder I"ve ever used. At least, at 800+ pounds, they aren"t likely to just "disappear".



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mike brown

12-02-2004 09:59:48




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to Big Jim, 12-01-2004 23:05:10  
Jim;
How are you setting up for dc welding? I've tried it a few times but keep comng back to ac because it seems to work a bit better for me with 6013 or 7014. The two base metal pieces seem to marry together better.
Mike



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jhill

12-02-2004 20:23:19




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to mike brown, 12-02-2004 09:59:48  
I use regular polarity and 7018 rod and it works very well for me. 6013 and 7014 give too much spatter on DC.



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jhill

12-01-2004 20:19:07




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to c p, 12-01-2004 17:30:20  
Plain steel rod. Tig welding is like welding with an oxy acetelyne torch with better heat control. Gas rod works just fine.



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old

12-01-2004 18:27:48




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 Re: TIG welder in reply to c p, 12-01-2004 17:30:20  
Back when I did TIG we would use coat hangers, mig wire or just about any wire we had laying around.



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