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O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction

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Ron (Tex)

11-29-2004 13:46:32




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I need to have approx 5000 ft of paremeter fencing put up around my farm in NE Texas. I'm thinking of having it contracted out since I don't have the time now to do it myself. What would be a fair price to expect for a 4 or 5 wire fence? There would be some light brush clearing on parts of the fence line. I figure it would be best to buy the material myself so that I can control the cost and quality of material.
Any thoughs?

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Ron in Nebr

11-30-2004 20:07:30




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
We run around 950 cows on about 16,000 acres. We measure our new fencing needs in miles, not yards or rods, and I do most of our fence repair and new fence construction myself, so I can't really give you a price on what contract fencing is worth these days. Built several miles worth of 3 and 4 wire barbed wire fence in the past few years, however. Like others have mentioned, the price will vary substantially on what type of soil you have. Also I'd agree with the other posters about letting the contractor furnish materials. They're his, he has to stand behind them, and he can buy in bulk and should hopefully pass the savings on to you. One thing I'd like to add though, is that although you didn't say what kind of critters this new fence is supposed to keep in(or out), we have about 8 miles of major highway running right through the middle of our place and get by just fine with 4 wire fence for our cattle. We use some 4, some 3, and there's even a few older 2 wire fences on the place for dividing fence, and they all work just fine as long as the cattle have enough to eat where they're at. A cow will pretty much go where she wants, and if she's got her mind set on getting out, nothing short of a solid, high, corral-type fence all the way around the place will keep her in. I've seen cows jump right on the top of wire fences and gates and snap the wires like string. So, to a point, the more wires you have, the more it's going to cost initially, and the more upkeep there'll be keeping them all tight. Not to say that 5 or 6 or 7 or 13 wires won't help discourage a cow who's just pushing to reach a bit more green grass, but here where cows are our only business 4 wires works just fine, and for any more wires, the cost exceeds the benefits.

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TomTX

11-30-2004 19:00:23




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
Ron,
since you are building new, I suggest you consider using more wires. Around here in North Central Texas they all use either net-wire with 2 barbwire over, or 6 - 8 barbwires. Since you have the lines cleaned out, it will not be much labor or materials to increase the number of wires a bit. Remember, it is very difficult and expensive to "add" wires later. Also, a 7 or 8 wire fence stands up to many more years of usage than 4 wire fence does. Cattle will usually leave a good, tight 7 or 8 fence alone. Good fences make good neighbors, keept their stuff out, your stuff in, and avoids law suits from cattle wandering on dark highways.

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Big Jake

11-30-2004 13:51:34




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
Link


pg 29 has fence building rates for KS



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joe e-tx

11-30-2004 10:23:18




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
just checked american classifieds aka: thrifty nickel .these people will build 5 wire fence ,supply pipe,braces,metal t posts starting at 1.00 per foot.9037806128. cant hurt to call and check there work.
joe



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knauffj

11-30-2004 05:32:21




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
I live in Western, Pa. The company I had worked for would do 5 strand high tensile, 60 ft between post w/spacers in between (to keep cows from pushing their way through) for $1.50-$1.75 per foot. Corners $100. Ends $75. Curves depended on number of post. Kinda cheap I thought, but they have trucks and crawlers equiped with augers and post drivers and buy supplies by the semi load. Straigh, solid fences. Just a little more info

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Rauville

11-30-2004 04:42:25




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
Regardless of what you pay, try to see an example of their quality of work first. We've hired so called professional fencers in the past, and ended up with some of the poorest work I've ever seen. When you have to redo someone else's job, it's easier to do it yourself from the start.
The best fencers we've had were farmers from South Africa that are working over here. They are capable of making picture perfect fences that are constructed better than any I've seen, using some building methods that I haven't seen.

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BigRed

11-29-2004 21:36:19




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
I help my uncle build fence, and it all depends on how many corners, what combination of wood and steel, and other such variables. The best thing to do would be to get an estimate from a fencing company. As for buying the material yourself, I would advise against that. I have helped build fence for both, and it is alot easier when we buy the materials because we buy the materials we like to use. I am mainly talking about tying braces and corners. We use wood posts for the cross pieces, and tie them with high tensile wire. Some people want metal braces, and we can do it, but it is alot easier and faster to do what we usually do. Also, any reputable fence builder will buy quality materials, and you will not be able to buy them cheaper unless you have some type of special deal. We get several roles of high tensile wire at a time, and you won"t even come close to using one. I would also assume you don"t have a need for twenty-five pounds of staples. Buying in bulk has its advantages. Just as a side note, I have noticed that staples and t-post clips are not near as good as they were a year ago. That being said, you are looking at a couple of thousands of dollars, but an estimate would be your best bet.

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John A.

11-29-2004 21:04:53




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
Ron, Here in Central Texas, going rate is $3.00/ft these days. There is such a huge variety of soil types it is hard to say. Here, where I am, spoil; varies from 3in of soil over soft to very hard calieche. To thick layers of limestone that will have to be jackhammered or dynamited. So with out a special digger gettin holes for the post is a bi-ch. Guys in your are may be alittle cheaper but probably not a lot.
Later,
John A.

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Johnski

11-29-2004 19:24:57




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
Do you bring your bacon and eggs into the diner"to control the cost and quality of the material"? You should find a reputable guy and contract him for the whole job. We all gotta make a living.



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txblu

11-30-2004 09:30:55




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Johnski, 11-29-2004 19:24:57  
Not only that, you as the contractor are familiar with your materials, not necessarily "what you are faced with when you arrive on site".

Also I wouldn't expect a guarantee of parts that the contractor didn't supply. Additionally it can be a scapegoat issue if there is a problem later on.

Mark



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kyhayman

11-29-2004 17:45:32




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to Ron (Tex), 11-29-2004 13:46:32  
Going rate here is $16 a rod labor if they provide the materials for building clear fence. They mark their wire and posts up about 20%.



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Ray,IN

11-29-2004 21:00:38




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 Re: O.T. Barb Wire Fence construction in reply to kyhayman, 11-29-2004 17:45:32  
I got prices from a farm fence builder last month. He quoted $8 per rod labor, and said he could supply the wire, steel and wooden posts cheaper than I could buy them because he purchased in large quanities.



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