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farmweld

11-27-2004 16:06:41

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i am wondering what kind of air tools all you guys have. just beginning to get them for farm

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JerryU

11-29-2004 04:14:07

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

If you are beginning, go look at Harbor Freight. For the bucks, they are not too bad. They are throw aways, but so far after about 7 years, I have not had to throw any away. They are made in China (but I got an Ingersoll air grinder for my son who did not want a Harbor Freight, and guess what? China).

Anyway, in my humble opinion, for starting out:

Half inch impact-450 lb ft torque minimum (and impact sockets-do not use standard sockets). (The 250 lb ft torque wrenches are generally whimpy for farm stuff).

3/8" drive air ratchet

3/8" reversable air drill

air chisel and chisels (this works great for cleaning mower decks)

air grinder--either straight and or angle

From there on the list is endless, but a couple of more things you may want to consider are:

air nibbler and air shears for cutting sheet metal

disk sander

Actually these things are not that expensive and with care will last quite a while.

My opinion.

If you haven't--www.harborfreight.com

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drb

11-28-2004 22:25:08

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

1/2 inch impact wrench, name brand, but can"t remember. A couple air chisels, one with needle scaler, one is name brand, another is Harbor Freight. Harbor freight is cheaply repaired, but parts can take a long time, like a couple months, I had to buy the hammer part inside mine. Grinder, but can"t remember brand. Name brand #5 spline impact. 90 pound jack hammer, I haven"t used this yet, but resurfaced the hammer inside it that strikes on the chisel. Vermeer mole 5 3/4 diameter, I haven"t used this yet, I just got it, and need to replace wear rings and whip hose. You might not be interested in the bigger stuff, I just have it because I got it cheap. I got two jackhammers for $5.00, and have one for parts. I got the Vermeer mole for $10.00, and the Vermeer salesman told me they sell for about $10,000.00. I don"t have a compressor for the big stuff, but would have to rent one. All my stuff was used, and I rebuilt them. The #5 spline drive impact uses pretty expensive sockets, if you get into big stuff like big wheels you will want to buy the socket as you need it because sockets can be over $100.00. I have a compressor in my shop and one I"ve constructed onto my service body on my truck.

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Big Jim

11-28-2004 22:02:19

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

I have added to my air tool collection at moderate cost by watching eBay. If you are not in a big hurry, there are some good buys to be had. My best is a Cleco (they make a lot of aircraft air tools) 1" drive impact for $60 plus shipping. If my heavy 1/2" won't handle it, I have a wrench that will do anything I'm likely to encounter.
Since I got a good, 2-stage compressor, I find myself adding a number of air tools as I go along. One of my favorites is the air drill. Without a big electric motor spinning inside it, you let go of the trigger and it stops, right now, without trying to wind up your arms.

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TomPa

11-28-2004 06:56:40

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

I use air tools at work. (Aircraft Maintenance) I also have them at home to use on the tractors and equipment. One thing I did wrong with I first set up was get a single stage compressor. If you are getting a compressor, I recommend that you spend the extra money and get a 2 stage compressor. Better recovery and constant pressure. I ended up trading up for a 2 stage. Get a minimum of a 1/2 inch HEAVY DUTY impact gun. it will last longer and and give less problems. Especially with farm equipment.
Good luck

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KraigWY

11-28-2004 06:33:22

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

I'm a big fan of air tools. I have a 1/2 impack wrench,and 1//4 & 3/8s air ratchets. Air chisels, cut off tool drill, nibler, framing hamer and brad gun, grease gun, die grinder and several air sanders and other tools for body work. I have two air compressers a large 60 gal 6.5 stationary compresser and a portable one for off site use. I'm to lazy to use manuel tools if I don't have to.

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RickL

11-28-2004 06:29:32

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

CP air tools what been working for me. (2) 1/2 impacts (1) 3/4 impact (1)Air hammer really handing for drivingm pins. bearings etc. air ratchets I don't use unless have to (These units can really snap your wrist in a hurry). They are used daily 8 to 14hrs a day. The units I have are all at least 12years old in age and still going strong. (But I don't buy the Walmart Line of them either ) good luck

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Fawteen

11-28-2004 05:00:07

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

I have a cheapo set of Campbell-Hausfeld tools, ratchet, impact and chisel. Use the impact quite a bit, it's fine for home-owner level stuff. I'll dig out the ratchet if I get into a job with a LOT of fasteners, but it sure sucks up the air.

Air tools I use most are my nailers. Framing, roofing and finish. My arms are so torn up that I can't swing even a 16oz hammer for more than a dozen nails or so. My coil framer will shoot anything from 4d to 16d, so it gets used quite a lot. The finish nailer is wicked handy too, less marring, and it automatically countersinks.

I use a die grinder a lot at work. Beats the heck out of a file! Need one for home, but it's $50 for the tool and $150+ for a decent set of burr mills. And talk about a air hog!

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rotten robert

11-27-2004 20:43:21

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

I use my air tools daily and like CP the best and Ingersoll Dand is agood line also. Keep em clean and oiled and they last forever.

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TimV

11-27-2004 18:50:30

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

farmweld: One important note--make sure you have enough compressor to run whatever tools you're planning on buying. Air impacts, sand blasters, grinders, and such use up a lot of air, both in terms of pressure and volume. Buying good tools and then not being able to run them to their potential is a frustrating waste of time. As far as specific tools, at the top of the list is a good 1/2" air impact. Other useful tools are an air grinder, air chisel, needle scaler, air drill, air rachet, and various types of sanders. If you're just starting out, Harbor Freight sells a kit of air tools for around $150. It includes a 1/2" impact, an air drill, two sanders (high-speed and orbital), an air chisel and an air grinder plus some accessories. I got mine about 5 years ago, and they're still going strong. Note that I have a 1" impact for the "tough stuff", but the cheapie works great for zipping stuff on and off.

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old

11-27-2004 18:31:06

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

1/2 inch impact heavy duty wal-mart, air chiesel air drill grinder and 2 paint guns and 2 sand blasters. Also have an air bead braker, but you will not find one of them probably.

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Frank M.

11-27-2004 18:02:26

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Re: air tools in reply to farmweld, 11-27-2004 16:06:41

1/2 inch impact wrench, 3/8 inch air ratchet, air chisel, siphon sand blaster. All cheap off brand stuff, but do what I need to do. Compressor is a 5hp 60 gal. 3 cyl. Eagle.

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wgloff

11-29-2004 19:01:37

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Re: air tools in reply to Frank M., 11-27-2004 18:02:26

Proved the compressor and air line today. Bought a Campbell Hausfield HD impact, hooked it up, and, nothing. Would not torque a lug nut to 100 ft lbs.
Took it to work and put it on shop air and 3/8 line. Took off and installed a 450 ft lbs wheel nut.
Moral, you need enough compressor AND large enough hose.
Actually, the C H gun appears to be a copy of an older style Ingersoll gun.

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