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Plans for Ultimate log splitter

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Redd

11-24-2004 12:28:36

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I have been wanting to build the "mother of all log splitters" for years. I know what I want and have agood idea how. I've collected everything I need. I have H beam, cylinders, engine, pump, valve, axle etc. It has to have alift for the big blocks. I just can't lift them up on the splitter and aroung here big wood is easy to get. I know there is an outfit that sells a processor that lifts,cuts splits, elevates. What I'm thinking is a lift like the popular bandsaw mills that has a flip up platform that goes to the ground and then flips up to roll block onto beam which would be simple, one hyd cyl, and no cable, tongs, etc. I don't feel the vertical models are the answer you still have to manhandle the big stuff into place. Any plans available? I know this kind of has been asked here before so I'm sorry for the repetition.

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Jon Bailey

12-07-2004 18:10:17

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Redd, 11-24-2004 12:28:36

Carol,
Could i get you to send me some detail pictures of your log splitter please. i am in the process of building my own splitter and i am interested in what your's look like.

thanks

Jon

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Dale Nurnberg

11-27-2004 21:42:59

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Redd, 11-24-2004 12:28:36

In looking at the wood splitter Carol has made it looks good, I made one way back when there was none in the counrty but i seen one at the state fair so i went home and started building. Now i would push the wedge into the wood instead of pushing the block that way you don't have to drag the block back each time, and i would make a lift simular to yours only i would put the tables on the lift arms one on each side of the spliter and run with indivual cyl's that way you only need to tip the block back into the splitter. just my idea hope it helps.

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Chris Brown

11-25-2004 06:50:38

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Redd, 11-24-2004 12:28:36

I saw a picture of one someone had built with a swinging boom pole over the splitter bed that used a winch cable and log tongs to load big blocks. I thought about copying that design.

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Leland

11-24-2004 18:27:44

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Redd, 11-24-2004 12:28:36

Carol has a good idea there but I would add a double cross wedge this way you have 6 pieces of wood split per cycle a But I wish I had a picture of niebhors I helped put together uses a lift cilinder off dozer has a pump off old ready mix truck and old 4 cyl ford engine,this will split an engine block

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Hermit

11-24-2004 18:23:20

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Redd, 11-24-2004 12:28:36

You might want to go to an auction and pick up a hand-operated hydraulic engine lift cheap. Hook up the hydraulic cylinder to the splitter's pump through a valve and put a tong on the end of the arm. Attach the vertical part of the engine lift to a pivot point. I've seen this on a couple of splitters and they work well when lifting heavy wood.

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carol Martin

11-25-2004 05:08:46

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Hermit, 11-24-2004 18:23:20

I built one with the crane type lift on it a few years ago. It worked (OK) But I Think this new rig that I Built works MUCH better, and a lot simpler. With the Crane You still have to get the HEAVY logs next to the machine or it will pull the machine over and you have three motions to do. Lift. Turn, Drop. as well as hooking up the tongs.. With This just roll it over to the lift with your foot and on to the arms and you ar done.. and with the tables you dont have to bend over to retrieve the split pieces, that is a big help..

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richard11

12-03-2004 07:51:18

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to carol Martin, 11-25-2004 05:08:46

If you build a vertical splitter, i.e. the ram goes up and down instaead of horizantal, you don"t need to lift the wood into the splitter. You can just position the block under the wedge and the wedge drives down into the wood at ground level.

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Carol Martin

12-03-2004 09:28:15

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to richard11, 12-03-2004 07:51:18

You do not have to lift the big blocks but you still have to bend over several times to position each piece and then pick them up off the ground after they are split, I think the way mine works is much easier on the back as all the real work is done at almost waist level , very little bending as I just roll the logs over to the lift with my foot occasionaly I have to use my hands to get them on the lift but not very often..Hey Its all in your personal preference..

Carol

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sawtooth

11-24-2004 15:45:58

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Redd, 11-24-2004 12:28:36

What "Carol" built sounds like a good idea. The only thing I think of is, is the lifter a dangerous pinch point?

The way I handle big log sections is use my low trailer as a platform- it is near to the same height as my splitter. I load the trailer with sections- this can either be done using a tractor/loader or a ramp board and roll them up on the trailer. This year I also made a boom lift with a winch on an axle- as well as a set of tongs to pick them up. With the trailer backed up to the splitter it's easy to roll huge sections onto the splitter, and I let one half go back on the trailer after the first split while I work on the other half. I like having another trailer to put the split pieces on to take to a stack rather than picking them up off the ground. Works for me.

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sawtooth

11-24-2004 17:50:52

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to sawtooth, 11-24-2004 15:45:58

On the firewood topic, I might add that about 10 years ago I made a light lowslung trailer to pull behind my atv. I used a pair of rear garden tractor wheels, 23-8.50-12's set on the same width wheel track as the atv. The frame is square tube steel. What I like about it is the way I can get into otherwise inaccessible places. I often unhook it and push it in next to where log sections are, then rehook to the atv and roll on log sections. I haul up to 1,500 pounds per trip. In the past several weeks I've hauled a huge pile out of a woods that's been "natural" for years. One guy I know sells firewood, I told him I'd been cutting and hauling, he said "how, it's too wet". I don't have to worry about getting stuck with the atv, it hasn't happened, but if it did it wouldn't be a big deal.

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Bus Driver

11-24-2004 15:41:52

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Redd, 11-24-2004 12:28:36

I built mine in 1980. Mounts on the 3pt lift of my tractor. The pump is driven from the PTO. Pump is a bit too big for the 35 HP, but will spike at about 3300 PSI and then kill the tractor engine. Cylinder is 5.5" dia and has stroke of 39". Can develop about 29 tons force. Ram is 2 1/2" dia so that it will not bend. I can actually drop the beam into a ditch so that big wood rolls easily onto the beam. Biggest rounds I have split are about 52" dia, can't saw larger. My splitter weighs about 900#.

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Carol Martin

11-24-2004 14:12:51

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Redd, 11-24-2004 12:28:36

Hi Redd:
I think I have Exactly what you are looking for I had the same problem you have (bad back and no Money) So this is what I came up with.. All you need is couple pulleys and a cable and little welding ability..Attached is pic of my unit if you want some detailed pics of anything give me your E-mail and what you want and I will shoot them for you...This really does work SLICK..When the Ram returns it lifts the log when it goes forewand the lift drops no need for added cylinder or control..

Carol

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Redd

11-24-2004 15:46:26

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Carol Martin, 11-24-2004 14:12:51

Carol, Looks good. I didn't think of doing it that way. The only thing, your lift cycles up and down with every stroke, does that get to be a problem? I have dozens of various hyd cyls so I'd only have to plumb it up, But your idea is exactly the style I'd like.

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Carol Martin

11-24-2004 14:23:29

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Carol Martin, 11-24-2004 14:12:51

Oops Link didnt work try again...

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Carol Martin

11-24-2004 14:34:11

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Carol Martin, 11-24-2004 14:23:29

try again to get pic...

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Carol Martin

11-24-2004 14:59:26

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Carol Martin, 11-24-2004 14:34:11

OK finally here is a picture...

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woodyy

11-28-2004 14:25:12

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Carol Martin, 11-24-2004 14:59:26

carol im in the process of building a log splitter and have a hydraulic cylinder just like the one you have in your pic can you tell me how good it works and will it be tough enough to split some big logs what size moter you running i have a 12 hp bottom shaft or a 4 hp will that small moter be big enough thank you

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big jake

12-20-2004 17:30:41

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to woodyy, 11-28-2004 14:25:12

that splitter is a waste of time look at the pic the chunk of wood isnt nothing that a ten year old kid couldnt pick up lets see it in use on a big chunk of wood say like a 48inch dont think it would work plus look at the junk chainsaw next to it get a sthil a mans saw

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Fawteen

11-25-2004 04:03:59

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Carol Martin, 11-24-2004 14:59:26

That is Pure-D GENIUS!

Another project for this winter...

Thanks!

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Carol Martin

11-24-2004 16:12:56

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Carol Martin, 11-24-2004 14:59:26

I have no problem with the lift going up and down each time.. It is not fast enough so that you are in any danger of getting pinched. I strongly reccomend the tables that I built on the front It saves a lot of stooping and lifting to get the pieces after they are split> I usualy quarter mine so have to split it again and it is nice to have the piece right there and not have to bend over to either put it on the lift or pick it up. The tables come off easily and store on the side of the machine..I find this setup works extremely well..I think I would prefer my way over the seperate ram..You have to return the cylinder anyway this saves another step in the operation.

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Kevin (FL)

11-25-2004 05:01:26

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Carol Martin, 11-24-2004 16:12:56

Carol,

That's a great idea you have there. As seen in the photo, my son has been helping me cut, split and stack firewood from the hurricane and I've been thinking of a way to lift the logs and also didn't like the way we had to bend over to pick up the split pieces for stacking. I had a few questions if you get some extra time:

1) Does the wire rope bind or scrape against the frame anywhere?

2) It seems like you would need 2 blocks with one end of the wire connected to the ram slide plate and the other "dead man" end connected to the underside of the beam where it wouldn't interfere with the sliding action. And one block (as your photo shows) connected to the lift and the other connected under the beam. Is that correct?

3) I like the platform too--I assume the larger side is on the side you stand and you always feed the split pieces to the same side as the lift? I was thinking of making the platforms the same size.

4) Why is there an open area on the platform in line with beam--any reason I can't cover that area too?

5) I figure the platform is set a little lower than the beam so it doesn't jam the split piece as it's coming over to the platform?

Again I say well done on the design--simple to build and it works--that's the way things ought to be..Happy Thanksgiving to all...

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Carol Martin

11-25-2004 06:22:12

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Kevin (FL), 11-25-2004 05:01:26

Kevin.. The only place that there is a rub is where the bottom pulley comes up under the beam and there I put a plate for the pulley to slide across. No Problem.. The reason for the diff size tables is on the near side all I needed was a place for 1 half to fall on..on the back side I needed room for the other half to rest, and a place for the other half of the first piece that is split again You wind up with 3/4 of the log on that back table..No reason for the open Just worked out that way. and the table is just about even with the top of the beam maybe slightly lower by 1/2 inch If you want more detailed pic send me your e-mail and I will be glad to send them couple others have requested pic and I have sent them so not problem if you want them..

Carol

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Kevin (FL)

11-25-2004 06:39:06

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Carol Martin, 11-25-2004 06:22:12

Carol,

I'll send you an email. Thanks a bunch.

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John *.?-!.* cub owner

11-24-2004 14:02:06

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Re: Plans for Ultimate log splitter in reply to Redd, 11-24-2004 12:28:36

Don't have any pictures or plans, but several years ago, a fellow employee made one that had a pair of arms on the side that pivoted at the splitter and lowered to the groud with a hydralic cylinder. The ends of the arms that lowered to the ground were curved so that when at ground level they were horizontal to make it easier to roll logs onto them. He just pulled a lever to raise the arms and roll the blocks into position on the splitter.

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