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Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade

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Bill in Ohio

11-19-2004 21:41:19




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Its that time again, time to buy another blade for my Makita metal cutting circular saw and I am begging for knowlegable advice. This is the 12 inch carbide type, metal cutting chop saw. So far I have had 2 Makita blades, both pretty good, 1 Amana blade which was expensive trash, 1 Random [brand name] blade which, not only was the most expensive, it was just totaly worthless. Returned it and the factory was good enough to pay the postage, and nothing else. I bought a Morse metal devil blade and it was SO GOOD, it lasted over a year, so, I bought another one and to make the story a bit shorter, its junk! At this point, it is on its way back to the factory for their amusement. The local hardware company warned me of their private tests of Freud blades [they quit selling them],SO, from your experiences, what blade should I be looking for? I am cutting square tube, rods, angle iron, etc for light fabrication. At $125 or more a piece, I am just getting tired of getting burned. Does anything out there have ANY sort of a warranty? THANKS!

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thejdman01

11-20-2004 14:59:14




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to Bill in Ohio, 11-19-2004 21:41:19  
walter abrasives makes those blades and have always done real well for me. the advice about not running htem when dull is a real good point and tip



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bj17b

11-20-2004 14:39:26




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to Bill in Ohio, 11-19-2004 21:41:19  
I use Dewalt and another off brand I buy from a company called MLM--costing around 90.00 per blade. I have found a good sharpening guy can make a poor blade work good. My blades have been sharpened at least 5 times each and either brand cuts well. Dewalt is around 120.00 per blade.

One thing,,the minute a blade dulls, and you can easily tell..don't attempt to keep cutting--change it out--and take it to sharpening guy--you will get more service out of the blade.

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Bill in Ohio

11-20-2004 14:49:10




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to bj17b, 11-20-2004 14:39:26  
Would you have contact info on the MLM?
Havent found a sharpening service I am pleased with around here either. I am in SW Ohio.



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RickL

11-20-2004 14:10:03




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to Bill in Ohio, 11-19-2004 21:41:19  
If you are talking about a Makita metal chop saw. I went thru several those and who knows how many blades,finally quit that and went with a dry metal cutting band saw (Ellis) and would never go back. Blades run about $40.00 with freight and get almost 2years use out of them. Cuts angles etc also really like it. Just my experience



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Bill in Ohio

11-20-2004 14:44:47




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to RickL, 11-20-2004 14:10:03  
This tool is dedicated to the carbide toothed blade, doesnt run fast enough to really use an abrasive wheel. I have 3 bandsaws and just about quit using them for anything that would fit into this saw. Cutting time is a small fraction of the time of a 1/2 or 3/4 bandsaw. That is, with a good blade, which is what I am hoping to get advice on. I do a lot of welding, sometimes producing fairly elaborate projects. You know, anything to keep the farm solvent!

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RickL

11-21-2004 05:44:39




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to Bill in Ohio, 11-20-2004 14:44:47  
Sounds like here with building stuff. Good luck on your blade search then because I will stay with my band saw it doesn't take anytime at all to do a cut,yes the 12" I beam stuff takes a little longer but does'nt matter because I get a good clean cut .



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txblu

11-20-2004 06:06:17




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to Bill in Ohio, 11-19-2004 21:41:19  
No ID. Do know that they make "bimetallic" blades for band saws, recips and jigs. Use one likein cold rolled steel to to the mechanical part and a brittle high strength blade area that stays sharp a long time.

Course I know a circular is a different critter.

What about an abrasive blade cutoff saw or are you cutting wide stock that needs the capability of a circular. I know blades last quite awhile, provide a clean cut and are inexpensive (Harbor FT).

Mark

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Bill in Ohio

11-20-2004 11:40:07




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to txblu, 11-20-2004 06:06:17  
This cutoff saw has been a very wise purchase for me. When it has a good blade, you really would have to see it in action. Cuts are quick and smooth, very acurate with few sparks, and if the blade is right, it is very cost effective vs the abrasive wheels.
That is my problem, some blades are good and some so-so and then some real rip-offs with no factory conscience. Advertised claims that it will outlast 40 abrasive wheels is not exactly a warranty!

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txblu

11-21-2004 06:47:35




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to Bill in Ohio, 11-20-2004 11:40:07  
If the wheel is not "abrasive" and it's a Cut-off Saw, what's it made from?

Mark



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Bill in Ohio

11-21-2004 14:36:16




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to txblu, 11-21-2004 06:47:35  
This saw uses a conventional looking blade, steel body with teeth brazed on, like a carbide. The teeth are a bit more sophisticated than our old carbides, it is a ceramic metallic bit.
It is incredibly quick cutting with almost no heat build up, when the blade is right.
Heat is the enemy, as soon as it gets into a situation when the heat builds up, it will get dull in a heartbeat.



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11-23-2004 09:12:32




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 Re: Need advice on a new metal cutting saw blade in reply to Bill in Ohio, 11-21-2004 14:36:16  
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