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Initial questions about the outdoor furnace

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Rod in Smiths F

11-15-2004 14:08:10




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On Nov. 10 Brian in NY commented about a radiator for a stationary diesel used to emit heat from an outdoor wood furnace.

Are there any other quick and cheap ways to set up a heat exchanger on a temporary basis prior to buying the expensive fittings?

I'd far rather get into this gradually, if I could. For example yesterday I cut up 14 spalted hard maple blocks (half rotten, but with solid chips, not dust, when cut after being down for over a year).

What I'd like to know is if they would burn the way they are, round, barkless, 22 to 30" in diameter, 15 to 17" long. Would they just smoulder or could they be used that way? If cutting the rounds in slices of 10 or 12" would work for burning, it would save a great deal of work. Trees in our woodlot often run up to 36", and hold that diameter pretty well up to the crown at 50 feet.

If I could burn rounds efficiently, I'd be much more willing to lay out the 10+ grand for a system to heat the two houses.

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Leland

11-16-2004 07:26:38




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 Re: Initial questions about the outdoor furnace in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-15-2004 14:08:10  
Nothing costly to buy pipe rubber hose and clamps this should be a cheap set up for temp heat.



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teamjunkyard

11-15-2004 21:34:11




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 Re: Initial questions about the outdoor furnace in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-15-2004 14:08:10  
I have a empyre, anything that will fit in the door will burn completely. I put in wood wet or just dug out of the snow. it all burns. once you have one you will never want a fire inside the house again. the safest way to burn wood



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R.K.

11-15-2004 20:08:27




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 Re: Initial questions about the outdoor furnace in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-15-2004 14:08:10  
I have a Wood Doctor furnace that sits out side, it heats my 30x50 insulated pole barn and home aand hot water.I used to spend 3500 dollars in propane for a year just for the house. Havent spent a cent on gas going on 2 years now. I use abt 6 chords of wood a year and our home is the warmest its ever been . I live in n west indiana. The furnace cost me 6,000 dollars that included all hook ups.My furnace is abt 75 foot from the house 100 to pole barn. The underground piping is expensive 6.50 a ft to 12.50 a foot. No matter what furnace you get make sure it has a blower on it, it wont smoke as bad and will burn hotter.Ah you can burn any kind of wood to wet or dry.

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Gus

11-15-2004 16:37:07




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 Re: Initial questions about the outdoor furnace in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-15-2004 14:08:10  
I have an outdoor boiler type furnace that pumps hot water into the house through a heat exchanger. I have a friend who has one with a radiator and a fan heating his house. Your blocks would burn fine in my furnace. It has a blower that blows up through the coals igniting whatever is on top of them. I sold my splitter. I have access to so much dead standing wood, it doesn"t have to be split to dry it. If I can"t pick it up and get it in the stove, I cut it up until I can.

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Rod in Smiths Falls

11-15-2004 17:59:22




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 More questions about the outdoor furnace in reply to Gus, 11-15-2004 16:37:07  
Questions:
1. What brand of boiler is it, and what size?
2. How did you orient it in relation to your house to minimize smoke infiltration?
3. What sort of insulation system did you use for your hoses?
4. If I were to pour a pad for a furnace in advance, what would the dimensions be and how high off the ground?



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Gus

11-16-2004 02:59:58




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 Re: More questions about the outdoor furnace in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, 11-15-2004 17:59:22  
1.I have a Heatmor brand boiler model 200.
It sits approx. half way between the barn and house. (hats both)
2.Winds are usually from the west here so I put it kind of east of the house.
3.I used the 1" PEX pipe run through 4" PVC that has about 2-3" of foam and black plastic all attached as one unit. From dealer.24-30" below ground. Mid Mich.
4.All brands are probably different sizes.Some are on legs, don't need conc. pad. I buried my PVC. first because part of my pad is over the lines.
Check these different furnaces out. And more important the dealer. I am happy with my furnace.Ask for referals.I should have, but didn't.

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Midwest redneck

11-15-2004 14:41:58




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 Re: Initial questions about the outdoor furnace in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 11-15-2004 14:08:10  
I burn firewood in the winter as a supplement to the propane forced air furnace. Of course you have to be home to keep the stove loaded with wood. I will do the best I can to answer your question. I think that you have to split the round logs so they dry correctly, I have burned 5" diameter logs that were never split it just takes longer to dry I think. Splitting the wood is not that bad if you rent or buy a hydraulic log splitter, 1 guy can easily split several face cords in a day as long as you can lift the logs onto the splitter. I know of two guys in my area (Mich. central east part) that burn only wood and do not use propane or natural gas only wood for heat. (propane is used for the water heater) One guy uses a wood stove and his wife is home almost always, the other guy burns 10 full cords or more per year and his wife stays home too. If that maple has been down for a year then most of the moisture is out of it by now. I also know of a guy in northern Mi. that has an exterior wood boiler, he got the wood for free..tons and tons of railroad ties. I dont know what the boiler cost is but a good wood stove would cost $2000 + pipe and installation, per house. After you use your own trees for fuel then cord wood is maybe $100/cord.. in bulk. I have heard of firewood being delivered in small dumptrucks, 5-10 yrds at a time and you would get a quantity discount.

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