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Fred

11-12-2000 03:29:24




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Thanks to Roger, I have an old unknown type pump, I guess it must be a Kellogg. It's reddish orange with the split crank case and the groove in the center of the crank and some little guides in the bottom of the case. I tore it down today and I don't have the oil ring (slinger). It looks like the factory welded two cupped pieces of steel around the crank that would catch the oil and force it into the cross drilled holes. Has anybody seen this, is my thinking correct. I have a nice picture I could send. The bore math works out to a 5hp pump, 50 cubic inches, thanks for that good info Roger. I still want to make sure this is a Kellogg, I need to get rod bearings, everything else looks great. Any guess for a model number. Sure glad I found you guys,
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Fred in Seattle

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Fred

11-12-2000 11:43:32




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 Re: Kellogg Pump in reply to Fred, 11-12-2000 03:29:24  
Update, It is a Kellogg pump and it looks like I am missing the oil ring lubricator.



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Roger Prosper

11-12-2000 16:45:14




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 Re: Re: Kellogg Pump in reply to Fred, 11-12-2000 11:43:32  
Might be a 335. Does it have oval valve caps that are held down with two allen-head bolts? Cast iron valve bodies with oval holes?



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Fred

11-12-2000 17:25:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Kellogg Pump in reply to Roger Prosper, 11-12-2000 16:45:14  
The valve covers are round with ears for two bolts. The chambers are round with a round removable copper ring for the valve seat. Yes I think it is very close to an older version of the 335TV. It doesn't have the oil sight glass but does have a 4" extended pipe for oil drain. It looks just like the unit pictured at>Link
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Fred in Seattle

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Roger Prosper

11-13-2000 17:18:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Kellogg Pump in reply to Fred, 11-12-2000 17:25:56  
335 parts will fit all 335 pumps. T, TV and TVX refer to the type of unloading system on the pump. As long as it's a 335, parts will fit.

If I remember correctly, T is the one with the centrifugal unloader only. TV has the head unloaders, and TVX is set up for constant run, with a pilot valve to control the head unloaders. Basically, when it come up to pressure, the pilot valve opens and the valves unload, all while the pump continues to run. Useful for gas driven units.

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Fred

11-13-2000 18:13:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kellogg Pump in reply to Roger Prosper, 11-13-2000 17:18:02  
Thanks again Roger, I have located my parts and will order tomorrow. I was wondering about slight mods from old 335 to a newer version, like head bolt locations, valve size etc. Good to know they are the same. That oil feeder ring is $34.++, ouch. This pump has been worked on before, I know they forgot or found the ring feeder after it was together, then it's O-well I'm not going to tear it appart again for that little ring. Chev motors have a little part called an oil slinger that goes on the crank shaft after new timing gears are installed. I know of more than one that was forgot until after the job was buttoned up. The slinger didn't get put on those motors. I wasn't the mechanic on those jobs. Chev stopped using the slinger on the same motors later on.
I just picked up another compressor with an unknown pump. The tank is Brunner 1983, nothing on the pump. It's a 3hp V design with a cast manafold intercooler between the cylinders. It looks like a Devilbiss pump I saw 20 or more years ago. What do you think.
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Fred

11-15-2000 00:41:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kellogg Pump in reply to Fred, 11-13-2000 18:13:11  
I think this pump is the EL Smith V230. It's the 4 cylinder single stage. The discharge pipe dumps from the center of that manifold into the tank. My pump has the rectangular cylinders, reed valve plates etc. The shape makes sense for a 4 cylinder pump. Know anything about the EL Smith.



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Roger Prosper

11-14-2000 21:00:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kellogg Pump in reply to Fred, 11-13-2000 18:13:11  
I'll need a bit more to go on.

Single Stage? Two stage? Sightglass? Valve caps? Cast iron or aluminum? Flywheel? Colour?

As far as I know, the only DeVilbiss V-type compressors are the 445, 432, 447 and, I think 440. All are v-fours, cast iron and very heavy duty.


Brunner was a company that made tanks. There was also a Brunner Compressor out of Utica NY. They have been gone for quite awhile now. Don't know if the two companies are related.

I have a very old adjustable wrench made by Utica Tool Company. Sounds like Utica is a very big industrial area.

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Fred

11-14-2000 23:32:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kellogg Pump in reply to Roger Prosper, 11-14-2000 21:00:00  
Roger, A local compressor company has put paper stickers on the pump,V230,V230-261,and 4030-60. Cast iron, no sight glass, between the cylinder and the head are two stacked plates (poss alum rectangular),air intakes are on the outside of each cylinder with a foam insert,the cast iron rectangle manifold between the two cylinders is finned and has a little drain valve in the center front, the bolts are socket head cap screws, the color is a med green almost metalic, pump and tank (60 gal)are the same color. I thought the manifold piece between the cylinders was the intercooler for a two stage pump?

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Roger Prosper

11-19-2000 15:51:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kellogg Pump in reply to Fred, 11-14-2000 23:32:41  
Sounds like it might be a Smith, or a Smith-Sanborn. The connection between the cylinders is just a common discharge manifold for both cylinders and a convenient place to shed some heat. I have seen many Smith V-Fours with this type of discharge arrangement, and with a small drain for condensate as well, but never a v-twin design. Smiths also did use allen head bolts to secure their cylinder heads. Smiths are a good pump. Might even be pressure lubed. Is there a large circular protrusion out of the back of the crankshaft? Might be an oil pump.

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