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KJM

10-06-2004 20:31:41




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What is the recomended floor depth of concrete for a farm shop? 5 bag mix? I just ordered a 40x60x16 shop and I need to get the floor poured along with pipes for heat in the floor. Thanks kjm




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BobInMN

10-10-2004 19:17:44




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to KJM, 10-06-2004 20:31:41  
I work as a Civil Engineer Tech and do a lot of concrete testing. As for thickness and strength it depends what you are going to put on the floor. Concrete is usally ordered from the readymix plant by design. An example might be 3500 PSI with air. I have seen some very bad concrete. You really don't know what you are getting unless you have it tested. If I can answer any questions for you email me your phone number and I'll give you a call. I have unlimited call minutes on nights and weekends.

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jeffcat

10-07-2004 20:22:04




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to KJM, 10-06-2004 20:31:41  
The local cement plant up where my folks farm is has been there since I think 1955 or so. Has gone into it's third owner. Now my dad told me that the county is no longer allowed to buy from them. How crappy of cemect can you sell when the curbs on drain boxes crumble after one winter? Is they usin old stock or surplus or maybe old ground up cat litter for cement? Before you pour ask around and get one of those long grey plastic test tubes for a pressure test. 6000lbs is for the real big time stuff like Hi-way etc. You don't need that good but the better the gooder. jeff PS I know there are real good cement guys on here , so let them tell ya. The cow walks around our barn were"left over" cement from the hi-way when it was made four lanes in the late 50s. This stuff is WHITE when it dries! NO cracks after almost 40 years and it is about 8" think.

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kjm

10-09-2004 20:29:40




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to jeffcat, 10-07-2004 20:22:04  
jeffcat, That left over cement made me remember a story a friend told me about,15yr ago they built a new bridge across the Missippi here and had 5 truck loads of mix on a barge when the state inspector said the air temp. was to low and dropping so they dumped it on the ground. You know that had to be the best money could buy.



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Gene Davis (Ga.)

10-07-2004 20:17:54




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to KJM, 10-06-2004 20:31:41  
Built a Butler 30 X 75 building in 1999, used 3500# mix with fiberglass stranded reinforcment in it, and have had no trouble so far with it, The other guys are right, the underneath pad you pour on is very important. Butler building representative told me they wanted minimum of 3' of of packable clay and the last 10-12 " to be red or orange sand. He did the finish grading of the pad,poured and finished the slab for $1.00 per yd. cheaper than I could buy concrete alone. He does buy a lot of concrete from his supplier. It looks good,and it has held up well. I also set a 4" pipe with angle iron welded in 4 directions to it to make a foot on it and poured the concrete around it, and used this for mounting my welding table with vise to it, and don't have to worry about trying to hold the vise/table steady when really hammering or pulling on something. Gene Davis

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Leland

10-07-2004 18:48:37




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to KJM, 10-06-2004 20:31:41  
I used to work for a guy that poured crete and in some floors he would put 8 bag mix in repair areas and 5 bag in the rest. 8in thick in repair area with steel and 6 in thick else were but unless you spend money on good base you are wasting the rest.



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Robert in W. Mi.

10-07-2004 15:26:01




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to KJM, 10-06-2004 20:31:41  
Mines 6" with #6 rebar, and hog wire. I have no cracks, and it's doing great. It's important to put a good compacted base under it if you want it to last. Also i think the rebar and hog wire is a good investment.

Robert



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Mark - IN.

10-07-2004 06:09:52




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to KJM, 10-06-2004 20:31:41  
Who"d you order through? I"m shopping myself. Lester came back and told me I"m out of their area (Bristol, IN). I"m expecting another out of Texas to tell me the same. Contacted Olympia first, and am still waiting. US Steel (big quanset huts) look like too much dead space. Diy Pole Barns kits include mix, waiting to here from them as well. All on a 40x60x14.

Who got back to you and will work with me (my money)?

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KJM

10-07-2004 19:31:52




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 new shop floor in reply to Mark - IN., 10-07-2004 06:09:52  
Mark, I went with US Steel,they beat my best pole barn price by 5,000.00 on a 40x60 but it comes without ends. email me I get cash if you use my name and buy one! I`ll let you know how I like it in Dec. it ships Nov 15. Kjm



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Mark - IN.

10-09-2004 05:02:12




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to KJM, 10-07-2004 19:31:52  
KJM, I can't see where I can Email you, so you can Email me (un-hidden). US Steel is certainly worth looking into. Although I don't particularly care for the looks of them, who really cares so long as keep the trucks and tractors and stuff dry. I see those things all the time, and just saw a new one in Manhatten, IL. the other day. Was tempted to pull over and talk to the owner, but didn't see anyone around, and didn't want to disturb them.

It's Saturday mornin', about time to get outside and goin' - got a lot of junk cedar trees cutdown, need to drag out to the burn pile.

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Leland

10-07-2004 18:45:27




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to Mark - IN., 10-07-2004 06:09:52  
Mark don't knock those quanset huts they have lots of room and tall equip can get right next to walls plus easy to put in attic and easy to add on to



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lucas boy

10-06-2004 20:37:26




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to KJM, 10-06-2004 20:31:41  

i poured 8" of 3500psi and its held up good under some big tractors. lucas



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kjm

10-07-2004 19:38:12




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 Re: new shop floor in reply to lucas boy, 10-06-2004 20:37:26  
Thanks for all of the replys,I just don`t want some contractor to rip me off with cheap concrete.



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