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OT: deck building..need some ideas on originality

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Midwest Redneck

10-03-2004 04:38:03




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hey everybody this is Kurt (I cant use my name because of the reserved name %rap, I forgot my password and bla bla bla.) So I will now call myself midwest redneck.) Anyway, I stilll have not put up a back deck. But instead of building the regular run of the mill deck I am thinking about using treated fence posts for the spindles instead of the regular 2x2 spindles that you could kick out with your boot. I am also thinking about using cultured stone on the facia boards, and the compostite decking for the top boards. Give me some ideas here. I know that the composite decking is twice the money but it lasts a lot longer.

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F100Panel

10-05-2004 16:02:22




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 Re: OT: deck building..need some ideas on original in reply to Midwest Redneck, 10-03-2004 04:38:03  
Treated wood always seems to warp & twist. I was at a local lumber yard & saw "Aluminum Spindles". $2ea. I thought WOW no more warped spindles, gimmee 160 of em ( @$2 ea ) & I"ll take"em in gray... They brought"em out & I looked at"em & thought they look like gray plastic conduit... Soooo. I put the aluminum spindles back & used gray plastic electrical conduit. Been on there 4 years now & razor straight. Admittedly not too sturdy but it"s a ground level deck & should a child slide their head through you can pry it out easy enough. Using that the spindles cost me 80 cents each. MANY have commented how good they look & gray has to fit into your decorating scheme...

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mud

10-04-2004 14:29:56




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 Re: OT: deck building..need some ideas on original in reply to Midwest Redneck, 10-03-2004 04:38:03  
built a whole lot of decks, both commercially and residential. used routers to round over railings and let in treads. used any types of fasteners to put the stuff down with. used ceder, redwood, p.t. and trex. that said:

p.t. wood has no allegiance to 'stay put'. it will crack, shift, cup, and shrink. you can count on that.

the plastic stuff is nice, but will it hold up the uv light? that is the real question. it hasn't been with us long enough for me to believe the hype.

if you want to do something original why not use pipe railings and lexan panels? cheaper in the long run and will add more value to your house than anything wood or plastic. mud

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T_Bone

10-03-2004 17:16:05




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 Re: OT: deck building..need some ideas on original in reply to Midwest Redneck, 10-03-2004 04:38:03  
Hi Kurt,

Try deleting your ytMag cookie then accept a new cookie. Maybe that'll help.

Here in AZ wood just doesn't last as the heat destroys wood so fast. I also don't like chemicals around my food as kids are always dropping food then eating it before you can correct them.

I like concrete with mixing in color to what ever I like then make a patteren to whatever design I like. It's not hard to make the crete look like tile with grout or rustic rocks. You can use sand with portland as you don't need any strength or add large rock and sand.

T_Bone

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I

10-03-2004 15:54:49




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 Re: OT: deck building..need some ideas on original in reply to Midwest Redneck, 10-03-2004 04:38:03  

built one 750sq/ft deck this year using the composit deck boards. Was actually a redeck job using the provious 24" cc frame. Turned out good but if building new I would go a min. of 16"cc on the frame as this stuff is heavier than treated lumber. From this one experience I would recommend that you talk with a supplier that carries multiple brands colors and types. I also found it necessary to predrill all fasteners near the ends as the stuff will split. Depending on the type you choose you will want to us an edge band to cover the unsightly end cross section and this will need to be consdered in the frame. If the stuff last like they claim it will be nice

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Allan in NE

10-03-2004 08:58:34




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 Re: OT: deck building..need some ideas on original in reply to Midwest Redneck, 10-03-2004 04:38:03  
Hi Kurt,

We planted this little one made from green treat last summer and then put this really, really HEAVY cooker on it. I was really worried about the weight of the thing and wheather the wood could handle the load, but so far, so good.

Smacked 'er with the sealer this spring and all is well.

Good luck with your project,

Allan

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Midwest redneck

10-03-2004 12:10:06




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 Re: OT: deck building..need some ideas on original in reply to Allan in NE, 10-03-2004 08:58:34  
That looks nice, I will have to do some investigating of the composite deck boards, load capabilty, how strong is it, price, etc. etc.



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Robert in W. Mi.

10-03-2004 19:00:06




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 Re: OT: deck building..need some ideas on original in reply to Midwest redneck, 10-03-2004 12:10:06  
Seems a lot of composites need to be on 16" centers, it's just not as strong as "real" wood.

Have you looked at Ipe??? (pronounced E-pay)It's a "real wood", that is grown in SA for just this purpose. The lumber is about as rot resistant as treated lumber, and looks just beautiful!!!

You will truely have something spl. if you use IPE, and it will look SUPER!

Do a google search..

Robert

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Joe MD

10-04-2004 15:00:53




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 Re: OT: deck building..need some ideas on original in reply to Robert in W. Mi., 10-03-2004 19:00:06  
I second on the Ipe.

We have Ipe tongue and groove now on our covered porch floor. It has weathered to a natural teak gray.

My father and I built him a new deck on the water in Maryland. He used special EB-TY hidden fasteners and sealed it. Looks like mahogany . . . almost too nice to walk on.



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Mark - IN.

10-03-2004 08:36:23




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 Re: OT: deck building..need some ideas on original in reply to Midwest Redneck, 10-03-2004 04:38:03  
Good morning Redneck Kurt. The place that I just bought a few months ago has treated lumber that the privious owner never Thompson'd (treated), so I know what I'm gonna be doin' next year. Thing is though, is a wrap around most of the house on the second story. I'm 6'2" at about 240 and can feel some some boards. The first time I go through and end up with a steel post up my butt, I'm gonna be kickin' myself in the butt for not fixin' them right now, right after I pull myself off of it. No time right now.

If use pressure treated lumber, keep on top of cleaning and sealing, so don't waste money.

My sister and brother-in-law used that plasticy (composite) stuff on their deck. Might be the greatest thing in the world, might not. Brother-in-law tried to talk me into using those boards for the horse fence I just put up, instead of the treated 1"x6" deck boards I used and painted twice with oil based barn paint. I sent him home to Sis - tired of always being upstaged by the brother-in-law. Nice guy, but I've never been one to top the Jone's - they constantly battle the jone's, or vica-versa. I aint got no Jone's live out here by me, just neighbors and friends with livestock and horses.

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