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dismount mounting a tire

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Newatthis

09-26-2004 11:42:28




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I have a tire to replace on my water trailer. 7.50 x 16 . I found a suitable replacement on a split rim - I got the rim apart but the other bead won't come off. I have tried driving over it and that doesn't work. I have no tool or the cash flow at this time to buy one, does anyone have an idea of a tool that I can make?




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Newatthis

09-27-2004 13:22:59




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Newatthis, 09-26-2004 11:42:28  
I thank you all for your in put.Rusty,Leland, That was ausom!I used a smaller six ton bottel jack,I found it to be less cumbersum but at any rate it was anap and I now have a water trailer with 2 OK tires:To clear things up, I'm not useing the split rim. That's just where I found the better tire.Thank's for looking out though, We need all the heads and hands We'v got around here.



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Leland

09-27-2004 16:47:25




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Newatthis, 09-27-2004 13:22:59  
Glad to be of help



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Bruster

09-27-2004 08:03:07




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Newatthis, 09-26-2004 11:42:28  
working with trucks and tires the last 29 years, I've seen very,very few split rims that are clean, or solid enough to trust remounting and putting in enough air to (up to 60#) to hold up any weight like a water wagon. You could try a junk yard, to see if they might have a 16" SPLIT or SLIP ring style rim with the same bolt pattern. Safer than a SPLIT RIM



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Mark - IN.

09-26-2004 21:24:00




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Newatthis, 09-26-2004 11:42:28  
Before putting your tire back together, make sure to clean the rim real well (rust and stuff) before putting the two pieces back together. You really oughta be using some sort of cage around the whole assembly when airing up - If doesn"t seat right, can seperate with deadly consequences. Many a hand has been lost while putting split rims back together, as well as lives. Just be careful.



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Leland

09-27-2004 05:53:55




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Mark - IN., 09-26-2004 21:24:00  
Wraping a heavy log chain around rim will do in a pinch, but be careful I belive more heads have been lost than hands.Thats why the fed outlawed them, it's not legal for any tire shop to touch most of them.



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Leland

09-26-2004 17:36:52




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Newatthis, 09-26-2004 11:42:28  
Easy way to do this, get a hi lift jack put square shoe of jack on bead close to rim. I always use a tractor bacuse its heavy and put jack under tounge start jacking bead will pop before tractor lifts an inch.



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Frank Aldous

09-26-2004 16:24:35




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Newatthis, 09-26-2004 11:42:28  

Take a can of coke cola soft drink and pour it around the bead on one side. Let it set for about 20 min. turn the tir over and do the same on the other side. Let it set for about 15 min. then take a wooden block and pick the tire up in the air and drop it so the rim hits the block of wood in the cente and it will fall off. When i was a kid the garage beside my home did it that way on the trucks that had split rims back in the 50's.

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rustyfarmall

09-26-2004 14:35:41




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Newatthis, 09-26-2004 11:42:28  
Do you have a Handyman jack? Lay the tire flat under the rear drawbar of your tractor, place the base of the jack on top of the tire, and the lift portion of the jack under the drawbar. Pretend you are attempting to raise the tractor, but watch the tire closely. As the tire begins compressing, work the base of the jack in towards the rim of the wheel, you will want to get the jack right up against the wheel itself, if possible. You may need to rotate the tire, and reposition the jack to a different spot on the tire. You may need to do this 3 or 4 times, but the tire will eventually break loose. I have done this many, many times over the years. I have never had it fail. The heavier your tractor is, the better this will work. Please be very cautious when doing this, do not let the jack slip out or bad things will happen.

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Leland

09-26-2004 17:39:10




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to rustyfarmall, 09-26-2004 14:35:41  
I should have read your post first we think alike only way to break a bead with out a $150 bead breaker.



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Andy2

09-26-2004 13:29:36




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Newatthis, 09-26-2004 11:42:28  
A simple slide hammer works pretty good. Go to a tire shop and ask to see one, they are simple and cheap to build.



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Bob

09-26-2004 12:23:14




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 Re: dismount mounting a tire in reply to Newatthis, 09-26-2004 11:42:28  
It sounds as if you're replacing the tire, so just make a saw cut into the bead.



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