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Earl S.

09-25-2004 12:05:49




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I now have city water and they tell me I have to seal the old well .How is that done?? I live in Illinois. Earl




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buickanddeere

09-29-2004 05:58:34




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 12:05:49  
I would keep the security of having a backup supply of water from my own well. It may just need the pump/pickup/check valve lowered? The other wells in the area may have lowered the water table. After getting rid of the basement pump/deep well siphon and going with a submersible pump. I'll never use anything else again. Much more flow and pressure with the same HP. It will cut the cost of water/sewer rates when watering lawns, gardens and washing vehicles etc.

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Earl S.

09-28-2004 18:31:31




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 12:05:49  
Thanks for the reply from everyone.I think I am going to hook to in the ground frost proof hydrant down 4 ft to well. The well still works it just can't pump enough pressure for 2 households with the hole in the drop pipe. Earl



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Hal/WA

09-27-2004 21:36:01




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 12:05:49  
Any chance they would allow you to simply weld a steel plate over the top of the well casing? It seems a shame to fill in a well, if that is even possible. You or someone else might want to use the well again sometime..... Wells are not cheap to drill.



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JHILL

09-26-2004 20:11:42




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 12:05:49  
I don't knpw about Ill but in Mi the ag extension service will share in the cost of closing a well.



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tt

09-26-2004 07:54:48




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 12:05:49  
I dont know about Ill law but in Wisc your not allowed to fill in a well with out trying to pull the pump.Do your self or further generations a favor and try to pull the pump or what ever will come up. ( pump may be old style with pbc in it)If you get pump out then pour a few gallons of bleach down it then mix up bags of ready crete cement and use a piece of 2 or 3 inch pvc pipe as a guide to make sure the cement gets pass the pitless and pour it down the well, if you wish to do this but I would advice having a well person with a grout pump do the sealing as to make sure it gets sealed from the bottom but otherwise the cement will try to bridge up once it hits the water table. sorry so long but good luck

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Jaker

09-25-2004 18:38:57




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 12:05:49  
Earl,
If you do not want to end up spending big money I would fill the well in with sand and gravel until about the top 5 feet then put dirt in. According to Illinois laws you are suppose to contact your health dept. and have several tests done. Then a soil profile is needed so that you can fill the hole in with the correct dirt or gavel that was formerly there. This will start costing a whole lot more than it is worth. The other option is to put a hand pump on the well and use it so it doesn't become abandoned.

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Bus Driver

09-25-2004 14:57:07




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 12:05:49  
Better ask those who ordered the well sealed. Varies from place to place, here, an abandoned 6" well must be filled with ready-mix concrete. Larger wells have washed crushed stone to above the water, then concrete, then dirt. Not low cost.



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Leland

09-25-2004 14:25:13




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 12:05:49  
Earl I live in IL too, just pour 4 gal of bleach then fill with sand to 4 feet from top then top with dirt . This will please your local health dept.



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Earl S.

09-25-2004 18:26:03




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Leland, 09-25-2004 14:25:13  
Thanks Leland, The reason we had to quit using the well was it had a hole in the drop pipe and they couldn't pull the pump to repair.It has been in for over 30 yr. and wouldn't come out.So the well man said he could pull hard enough that some thing would come out,but if the pipe broke we would be out of water. So village water was 200 ft away and we got them to extend it to us. Wouldn't you have to get below the pitless adapter to fill the well. It looks to be about 4 ft. down. What county do you live in? I live in Champaign county.Would it be best if I contact the County board of health first? Do they have to inspect it ?? Earl

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Leland

09-25-2004 18:47:11




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 18:26:03  
Also the reason I used sand it will not block the water vain that way others in my area could still depend on water getting to them.



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Leland

09-25-2004 18:43:38




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 Re: Well has failed. in reply to Earl S., 09-25-2004 18:26:03  
Earl I live in sangamon county by Springfield as long as you put in the bleach to disinfect the fill and ground water you are putting into ground that will satify them .I just filled one in and they just looked as they drove by.get a backhoe to pull off your cap bleach then just have a dump truck full of sand , but tell the guy hauling how deep well is you might not need a full load. Them have him back up unload to within 3-4 feet from top add topsoil and you are done,I used 3ft of dirt bacause sand won't grow grass very well this will be simple and easy don't sweat relax and enjoy

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