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FarmerDave

09-23-2004 20:37:09




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I have seen these gas cans, about $35 for five gallon, that claims to be OSHA approved. Why are they better than the plastic jobs from blitz?




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Bill from wisc

09-26-2004 08:27:23




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans in reply to FarmerDave, 09-23-2004 20:37:09  
Not all OSHA gas cans will work good out on the farm. We need to use some commend sence when we buy a new gas can. Example using a self closing can to fill a old tractor with out using a large funnel doesnt work very well. Dont buy the cheapo OSHA gas cans for the farm. The good ones will last a life time. At our factory jobs they are required. If you have every talked to someone has gotten burned from using the cheap plastic walmart gas cans you would never buy one again and let you kids fill the lawn mower with them.They do take alot to get use to but safety first.

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Dell (WA)

09-26-2004 01:30:53




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans, NOT really in reply to FarmerDave, 09-23-2004 20:37:09  
I gotts one them official safety gas cans with the YELLOW pour spout. I can't empty the can without SPILLING and SPLASHING. Don't even try to get the last 1/2 gal out. Safety my eye..... ..and don't get me started on safety glasses, can't see 'nuttin' but by garr, my eyes are safe even iff'n I can't see where my fingers ain't..... ....Dell



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Leland

09-24-2004 16:34:39




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans in reply to FarmerDave, 09-23-2004 20:37:09  
Those metal cans will last you a life time, a farmer I used to help had a dozen of them. And I hated filling combine with them, to many trips to town.



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Indydirtfarmer

09-24-2004 05:01:49




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans in reply to FarmerDave, 09-23-2004 20:37:09  
Like it has already been said, OSHA doesn't approve anything. They will DIS-approve of a good many things, but they only write standards, and inspect for lack of compliance to those standards. We get a regular visit from OSHA, state and local fire inspections, and from our insurance company (The underwriter) They all use current OSHA standards as the basis for their inspections. Instead of "OSHA Approved", it should read "Complies with OSHA Standards" John

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Pile Buck

09-24-2004 05:36:53




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-24-2004 05:01:49  
Hi Indydirtfarmer. Well said! I�ve seen some real knock down drag out arguments over the interruption of OSHA standards. You almost need a Johnny Cockern to help you when you get a real anile inspector. I think my toughest inspections came from our own insurance company. My company was lucky; we had a real good safety record. So we paid somewhere around $4.00 per man-hour, but our biggest competitor was up around $ 9.00 per man-hour, ouch!

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Bus Driver

09-24-2004 04:16:46




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans in reply to FarmerDave, 09-23-2004 20:37:09  
That screen mentioned in another post is a flame arrestor. A flash outside the can will be cooled below the temperature of ignition by the screen, no explosion of the can.



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Nolan

09-24-2004 04:09:04




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans in reply to FarmerDave, 09-23-2004 20:37:09  
Like Wayne said, OSHA doesn't approve anything, and claims that something is "OSHA approved" is a flat out lie. Or marketing hype if you're feeling generous towards the company.

That said, the "OSHA approved" metal cans by Eagle are superior to the cheap Blitz jugs you get at Walmart. They seal better, don't leak, handle pressure better, pour better (try pouring from the new environmental Blitz jug some time),etc. They are a very good can, even if they aren't really OSHA approved.

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Pile Buck

09-24-2004 03:55:51




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans in reply to FarmerDave, 09-23-2004 20:37:09  
Hi Farmer Dave. I was a superintendent for a large construction company. With my company safety was job one! I had to go to safety classes all the time to keep up on all the laws. OSHA sets the Federal standards. Now each state can make their laws tougher than OSHA, but cannot make them less. Example, OSHA says you must be tied off once you are 6-feet off the ground, your state cannot say it�s OK to work 12-feet off the ground before being tied off. OSHA is the law! If you do not follow the law it will cost you, and your company. They also have a little known item called �competent person� this one will bite you. They start at the top and work down. It the offence results in death or bodily injury, someone could go to jail! Some of the reasons for safety gas cans are. Spring loaded lids, metal material, and the big one they always ticket you for. The flash back screen inside the spout!

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TheRealRon

09-24-2004 03:04:01




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans in reply to FarmerDave, 09-23-2004 20:37:09  
Yes, they are OSHA approved and for a reason. They are far safer in terms of venting and static. Any place that sells them can give you all the details.



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NC Wayne

09-23-2004 20:54:41




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 Re: Safety Gas Cans in reply to FarmerDave, 09-23-2004 20:37:09  
Don't let them fool you, nothing is actually OSHA approved. OSHA isn't in the business of "approving" anything, the only thing they do is write you up if they don't like what they see. That said it depends on what your wanting to do with the can. The cheaper plastic ones are good for using around the yard but that's about it. If your planning to carry it in the back of your truck on a regular basis, or anywhere it might see rough service then the metal safety can is the only way to go. The tops of them are spring loaded shut so they won't spill even when tipped over. The one I carry on my service truck jumped out of it's strap one time and rolled around for a good while before I made my next stop and saw it and it never leaked a drop. I've seen them get hit HARD where there was a huge dent left in the side, and still never leak. The main thing to remember with the safety cans is they are sealed. If you fill one up be sure to leave room inside for the gas to expand when it gets hot. Too when you pull back on the handle to open the top be sure the opening is pointed away from you or your gonna get a nasty suprise when the gas sprays out on you. Just my .02

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