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3-phase generators

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rhiannon Hankin

09-10-2004 13:04:04




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I have bought a number of second hand machines, and now need a generaator to run them. I am trying establish to amperage of these machines and their running/starting current. There is littl einfo on the machines themselves.

There is a selection of Wadkin, Cooksley, Dankaert, Evenwood etc..

Any ideas where I might find this info???




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Leland

09-12-2004 15:22:57




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 Re: 3-phase generators in reply to rhiannon Hankins, 09-10-2004 13:04:04  
I would like to have a small one to, they are great for fishing. Thats what the state uses when doing a fish count.Knocks the little fellers out.



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MarkB_MI

09-11-2004 06:19:11




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 Re: 3-phase generators in reply to rhiannon Hankins, 09-10-2004 13:04:04  
I assume that you at least know the horsepower ratings of the motors. The key thing to know is that 746 watts equals one horsepower. So if you have a 2 hp motor, you should be able to operate it with a 1500 watt generator. Except you can't, due to power factor, inefficiency and exaggerated generator ratings. So if you double the generator size you should be OK. So a 3 kw generator should have no problem driving a 2 hp motor.

Now if you really need the amperage, say to size the wires, this gets more complicated. I assume that the motors are 208V delta. So for our 2 hp example:

HP per phase: 2 hp / 3 = .67 hp

Watts per phase: .67 / 746 = 500 W

volt-amps per phase:
(If the power factor is stated on the data plate, use that figure, otherwise assume .7)
VA = watts / PF = 500 / .7 = 710 volt-amps

amps per phase:
We have to pretend that the motor is a wye-wound motor, so we can use the phase to neutral voltage instead of the phase to phase voltage. (Never mind that there is no neutral.) The phase to neutral voltage is the phase to phase voltage divided by the square root of three. So for 208 volts phase to phase, the phase to neutral voltage is 120 volts.
So amps = 710 volt-amps / 120 volts = 6 amps.

I wouldn't worry too much about starting currents, as long as you've sized your generator and wiring conservatively you should be OK.

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rhiannon Hankins

09-14-2004 13:29:43




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 Re: 3-phase generators in reply to MarkB_MI, 09-11-2004 06:19:11  
THanks for all that. Think I need to sit down an get my head around it all though.

The main problem I have is that the machinery is stored elsewhere right now and access is difficult, which is what I need to read the info plates.

But I will have to try and get access to them.

Thanks again



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nwb

09-10-2004 20:54:04




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 Re: 3-phase generators in reply to rhiannon Hankins, 09-10-2004 13:04:04  
I'm not familiar with any of the machines you mention but the name plate on the motor should have the information you need.



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