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kraigWY

09-01-2004 15:12:33




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I'm gonna add a grease pit to one of my garages, can some one give me the dementions of a normal grease pit. Info, I am 5'11" and will be working on 4X4 trucks and close to the ground cars. thanks




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Joel Harman

09-04-2004 14:18:31




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to kraigWY, 09-01-2004 15:12:33  
Kraig, needs to be narrower than wheelbase, duh.

Think about how long you can hold hands above head to turn wrenches. Then just make it as deep as you need. Nice to have drain in bottom but if you do a drain need leakproof container to run drain into.

Nice to have planks to cover it when not in use too. Saves the sudden stops, because as you know it is not the fall, it's the stop.



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Bobcatz

09-02-2004 14:20:54




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to kraigWY, 09-01-2004 15:12:33  
I've used grease pits & I've used lifts. There is no way I would put in a pit before a lift in my own shop. It's a pleasure working under a lift, back & forth to the tool box & no climbing! Especially when you're older. Rest my case.
Bob



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CRUSADER

09-02-2004 09:32:39




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to kraigWY, 09-01-2004 15:12:33  
Good idea for adding a pit to your shop. We put up a 25 x 25 building a couple of months ago, still haven't got the electricity run to it. I had given thought to putting a pit in it, but decided not to look into it any further due what it may cost and how much I would actually be using it. I don't have any measurements, but would suggest at least 3 feet wide and 10 or 12 feet long and about 6 foot deep. This should/would accommodate just about any and all needs.

Jim

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Bilko

09-01-2004 19:15:30




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to kraigWY, 09-01-2004 15:12:33  
I belive in michigan you are not allowed to put a pit in a residental garage. I could be wrong. But i would check with building inspector before you go ahead. MIke



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Dozerboss

09-01-2004 22:09:59




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to Bilko, 09-01-2004 19:15:30  
I grew up with one at home. If you do it, It should be Built like a basement with foundation walls. Rebarred Block walls all around and a concrete pad on all sides, since its a garage you probably will have a concrete floor anyway. Ours was about 3' wide 6' deep and 18 ft long. We didn't have steps just an old railroad car ladder. Out in WY, theres a lot of mining, and it's rural. Differant than city areas that have building codes. May not be a problem out there.

If you live in a populated area like the northeast, you pretty much need a permit to do anything. You just can't do things like the rest of rural america can. You thought you lived in a free country and it's your land---right.

We never had a problem with ours, it was built right and we drained oils into a bucket and stored them in a drum outside and properly handled gasoline. Never drained anything on to the pit floor. Someone who doesn't know how to handle oil and gasoline could blow up the place as mentioned. It sounds like those guys should have been educated before they ever got near a vehicle. The lift is a good idea if you have the money.

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Um I am in Wyoming

09-01-2004 22:00:46




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to Bilko, 09-01-2004 19:15:30  
We don't have any codes or restrictions here, the county figures its my place and if I want a grease pit I can have one. No permits no nothing you want it build it. Thats why I live here.

KraigWY



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Dozerboss

09-01-2004 23:26:47




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to Um I am in Wyoming, 09-01-2004 22:00:46  
Well said!! Those were the principles this country was built on. I'm glad I'm not the only one who hasn't forgotten that. That's the spirit that beat the Japanese. Now some of us buy their cars and put their little american flag decal on it. We would never get to the moon today with all the regulations we have become insnared in. Now they just fly a satelite over your place, photo it and tax the heck out of you and tell you what you can do with your land in a lot of places.

I know a few contractors in those parts of the country. They operate with the philosopy it's easier to get forgiven than it is to get permission. Just like the our founders-- bucking the status quo. Truth is the people enforcing codes usually end up on the other side as expert witnesses for hire. More money in it for them. Know a guy who was fined $10,000 for digging a ditch for sock tile. By the time it was over he paid $600 for legal fees on a $3000 profit. Both the lawyer and expert were former EPA guys--case settled no fine, Suddenly those weren't wetlands after all, just muddy fields.

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Chris Brown

09-01-2004 18:28:18




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to kraigWY, 09-01-2004 15:12:33  
I have a real nice garage to work in,the problem is the cieling is only 8 feet and I can"t use a lift. I have had plans for years to jackhammer a strip of floor out and dig a trench for a grease pit. I saw a little new holland skid loader with no more than a 3 foot or 3 and a half foot bucket on it(tiny thing),I thought I could get it in there to do the trench. But like I said "plans" and someday. I am going to watch this discussion because I too am looking for ideas. I had figured to build a block wall to frame the pit walls and leave one block out at the end for drain and vent.

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JMS/MN

09-01-2004 16:18:39




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to kraigWY, 09-01-2004 15:12:33  
My current shop is an on-going process, for 22 years. Put the pit in maybe 18 years ago, despite others concerns with fumes, etc. Never had a problem, other than groundwater buildup. Drain that if you can. I have a sump at one end for pumping out. Mine is about three feet wide, sixteen feet long. Concrete steps on one end. Opening is covered with 4x4 timbers, one inch spacing, with about six joined together in each group, for easy removal. Depth is about my shoulder height. Works fine for working on vehicles, great for working under a skidloader, feed mill, etc. When I poured the steps I sunk three foot lengths of one inch shaft with a loop on top, for an anchor for straightening frames, etc.

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Bob

09-01-2004 15:30:29




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to kraigWY, 09-01-2004 15:12:33  
After what happened not too far from me a while back, I would think twice about putting in a pit because of the danger of pertroleum fumes, which are heavier that air, building up down there, unless, of course, you will have adequate ventilation by an approved explosion-proof fan.

Anyhow, in the case I mentioned, a buildup of vapor was somehow lit off in the grease pit, and the resulting explosion blew the overhead door off their shop, and blew a 4-wheeler that was inside the door well outside the building. If I recall, no one had life-threatening injuries, but it's still something to think about.

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Mark - IN.

09-01-2004 16:00:55




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to Bob, 09-01-2004 15:30:29  
Wow! I was just about to say what a neat sounding idea a grease pit would be. I guess not. I'm sure that my local volunteer fire department will be glad to hear that - they've got a picture of me taped to a target bullseye - those guys are thinking about converting one of my barns into a remote station just so that they don't have to drive over to my house and wait out in the driveway waiting for me to...blow myself up for the hundredth time, which they're all taking bets on will happen about mid-September.

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TR

09-01-2004 16:21:44




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to Mark - IN., 09-01-2004 16:00:55  
Grease pits are a thing of the past. Many areas won't even consider letting you put one in any more due to oil/grease/etc getting into water table. If they do they make you install a water/oil separator. Much expense.Insirance companies don't like them either, fire, enviromental concerns, someone falling in one etc. For something like a pick-up truck why not go above ground lift. They can be purchased for around 3K. My best friend just put a lift in his garage, he said its the" best investment I ever made" I inspect buses/trucks every day as my job in pits and can only say they are a death trap. In event of fire this be your grave. Besides that the fumes are not healthy. Maybe I'm wrong but a lift is so much easier to work around and can be moved if you want. A pit is there for good until filled in.

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Mark - IN.

09-01-2004 16:28:09




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to TR, 09-01-2004 16:21:44  
I don't think those fire department guys want me around a lift either. They'd have to drag the jaws of life along everytime they sit out in the drive anticipating my next move. My county didn't even have a foam truck until I bought a torch. When I got a quote for a fuel storage tank, they went out looking for a new HazMat truck.



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Bus Driver

09-01-2004 17:03:21




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 Re: Grease pit in reply to Mark - IN., 09-01-2004 16:28:09  
Nice equipment. Our department used to be just 3 dogs.



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