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OT: Propane prebuy price

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KURT (mi)

08-26-2004 17:27:26




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I signed up with a large nationwide outfit for $1.19/gallon. I sent in my check and the contract paper on Tuesday. Question for you guys. What are you paying for propane this winter? I dumped my local propane supplier, a small mom and pop place. Last week Monday I called them up and said when are you folks gonna let your customers give you money for the prebuy and the guy says to me "my boss is trying to time the market and it wont be for another month, well into September" Well I told him that he might just be screwing his customers if he times it wrong and I pay 20cents more per gallon vs. the other suppliers if he times it wrong. So I switched companys. The gas company isnt going to be getting gas down my road for years yet.

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RickL

08-27-2004 14:29:30




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
Kurt; just got letter today from my supplier for $1.09 gal



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JT

08-27-2004 11:15:44




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
I pay 1.19 per gallon, it may be a little high, but I am guarantteed propane and my tank is/will never run out. I am not bright I guess, but I happily pay a little to know I will always have propane to heat my shop. I buy from a local small company, have dealt with them for years, I do not care if I could save .10-.15 per gallon, I personally think it is worth it to have propane when I need it. I also buy my gasoline from them, usually 10-15 cents a gallon higher, but at lest I know I have fresh gas and it is pure.

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jdb

08-27-2004 10:53:34




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
Just got my contract.

$1.03 / gl prepaid.
$1.08 / gl 10% down ballance due on delivery

southeastern NE



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MarkA.

08-27-2004 10:42:51




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
I summer filled for .91 a couple of weeks ago and contracted 800 more gallons for .97 on monday. My lp man said lp was going up .16 on tuesday. Central Iowa.



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Leva

08-27-2004 09:28:40




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
Just got our letter from Amerigas in Ludington Mi. which said that for $39.99 they will guarantee my price will not go over $1.579. So that pretty much tells me what i"ll be paying this winter. Sounds like they got me by the short hairs. P.S. That is not a budget price either. Paid every delivery.



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Red Dave

08-27-2004 08:05:38




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
About a month ago I filled my 1000 gallon tank for 98.9/gal. Only took 300 gal. Should last the winter.
That was in my own tank, not a rental.



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Mike(Wi)

08-27-2004 07:11:29




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
Well, they kind of have me by the balls and I am a little concerned at this point.

Normally they send out prepay contracts in mid august. This year we got a letter saying that they were going to wait until sometime in Sept because current rates ($1.28) were too high.

I paid $0.979/gal last winter. That was the first winter using LP. Had been using fuel oil with old furnce before. Unfortunately my chimmney collapsed, and they sold me on a furnace upgrade to LP. Don't really like it as much. While it is more efficient, it has a lot less BTUs and you really aren't saving anything when you figure the cost of a new furnace and that it probably won't last beyond six years or so...this dammed electronic computer stuff....

Don't like how this is shaping up and there is nothing I can do.---ecxept start cutting wood earlier. Starting tomorrow instead of after labor day. I think I will be burning a lot more wood this year as well as a lot more shivering.

Good luck to all.

Mike

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Kurt (mi)

08-27-2004 08:08:38




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to Mike(Wi), 08-27-2004 07:11:29  
yep, that is what my local yocal propane supplier said too, He is trying to time the market. In a nutshell I told Him that if I was going to get screwed I would no longer be a customer.



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Mike(Wi)

08-27-2004 08:20:53




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to Kurt (mi), 08-27-2004 08:08:38  
Well, you are correct and that they are trying to time the market. Only problem is that we have no choice. There are only two suppliers in my area and their prices are the same. We can choose between being screwed by tweedledee or screwed by tweedledumm.

Have to work for a living--that means 40 hours plus doing something else. Don't have time to heat exclusively with wood, and it isn't cheaper to pay someone else to cut it. Electic isn't any cheaper in this climate. Fuel oil is just as expensive...solar is not cost effective...pick your poison, its all bad.

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trickle creek

08-27-2004 02:53:24




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
just sent in contract for $1.05 and i thought that was high, price in our area if you are a captive customer (rented tank) at $1.20. I'm in central iowa



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Ohio-Bob

08-27-2004 04:10:57




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to trickle creek, 08-27-2004 02:53:24  
just filled up here in ohio, for .89 i look for prices to go up for the winter fills big time



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Shane

08-26-2004 22:20:32




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
Not absolutly sure but I have been told that some of those large nationwide companies are late on filling up your tank. Can't have that going on here since we need LP for drying our corn. Hope it turns out well for you.



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Oklahomatractorrebuilder

08-26-2004 22:04:39




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
We use our propane for heating the house and shop, all our tractors, and all our vehicles includinng 2 tractor/trailers. We buy it 500 gal or more at a time all year long and only pay $1.05 for it. The more you use and buy the cheaper it is here. It also helps if you own your own tank and don"t rent one of theirs as that locks you into using only whomever you rent the tank from. With our own tank we can buy from whomever is cheaper. We always call around and check prices and offer them a chance to sell to us if they will give us a lower price.

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Ray,IN

08-26-2004 21:27:07




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
I just bought 640 gallon for $1.25 per. It's not gonna go down! Watch and listen to the national news.



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TheRealRon

08-27-2004 02:33:27




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to Ray,IN, 08-26-2004 21:27:07  
Good advice! Prices are about to go through the roof. LP prices somewhat follow oil prices. The local suppliers here are charging $1.25 prebuy for fall delivery. You must buy a full tank, 500 gallon minimum. If you don't prebuy, the price is $1.45. If you have a contract you will get your propane. If not, you may not. A couple of years ago we had a really cold winter and the price was $1.90 for most of the winter. They went on allocation. If you didn't have a contract and didn't rent a tank from them they told you to take your business elsewhere. Lots of wood stoves were bought that winter.

I'm in the upper midwest.

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Shane

08-26-2004 22:17:17




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to Ray,IN, 08-26-2004 21:27:07  
Of course the news is always right, remember when they said gasoline was gonna hit $3!



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ShepFL

08-26-2004 19:46:25




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
Hey Kurt -
Who is the outfit? I have a 500 gal. tank buried at my place. I would like to pre-buy my propane if possible. I get mine from local supplier recently bought out by TECCO. I use the propane for gas fireplaces, oven and range. Thanks,
ShepFL (email uncovered just delete (remove).



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KURT (mi)

08-27-2004 02:23:16




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to ShepFL, 08-26-2004 19:46:25  
It is Ferrell gas, I guess they have outlets all over the USA.



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Heat or COOK'N...John,PA

08-26-2004 18:36:11




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to KURT (mi), 08-26-2004 17:27:26  
My local "mom and Pop" outfit offers 2 prices. One for heating, and, one for cook'n.

Heating propane, in volume is currently running $1.30 per gal, provided you take 50 gal. or more.

Cooking propane is $3.00 per gal.

I just paid them for 20 gal. of propane on Thursday. It was worth every penny. I have never called upon them to service my burner in the past 30 years.



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08-27-2004 13:37:51




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to Heat or COOK'N...John,PA, 08-26-2004 18:36:11  
That is all of the propane that I used in a year's time, for both heating and cooking.



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TheRealRon

08-27-2004 04:29:49




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to Heat or COOK'N...John,PA, 08-26-2004 18:36:11  
Cooking propane... for $3/g? What a great scam! Why didn't I think of that!



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Fred OH

08-27-2004 09:59:40




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to TheRealRon, 08-27-2004 04:29:49  
$3.00 a gallon...what a way to go on a diet! My comment is my propane company fills my tank after the winter is over...like late May. Probably charge the same as the winter fuel rates...and if theres any leakage during the summer it"s out of your tank, not theres. Fred OH



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kjm

08-27-2004 20:34:37




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to Fred OH, 08-27-2004 09:59:40  
My old suppler said $1.20 a gal new suppler said $1.05 gal for pre pay I bought 600 gal and it will last till next winter. Heat, cook, hot water and dry clothes,I can`t buy a chain saw and a truck for 600.00 a year.



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Jeff Oliver

08-27-2004 22:34:32




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to kjm, 08-27-2004 20:34:37  
Hey at least ya'll can get it delivered. I went with a fairly large company here UPG and being as I only have 100 gallon tank and use it to fill a couple of tractors we use now and then I am not in a rush normally. I tell them when they are i this area to fill it. Well, They have been in this area ( 2 miles from my house) 3 timees that i know of and I still have no gas! Gonna call Monday I guess and try a different company ans see if someone else wans my money.

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Delivery..John,PA

08-28-2004 05:20:11




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 Re: OT: Propane prebuy price in reply to Jeff Oliver, 08-27-2004 22:34:32  
I generally have my 22 gal propane tank filled when the truck is delivering gas to the next door neighbor for his 500 gal storage tanks. During the winter he gets propane every 2 weeks.
The delivery truck uses my driveway so the driver can get closer to the neighbors' tank.


after the 1st of October, we shut-down the upstairs rooms and just use the downstairs' bedroom. When I redisgned this house interior to the specifications of MEDICADE, I had to have an alternate source of heat available. I chose to put propane space heaters in each room due to the fact of electrical power loss. So, we only use a small amount of propane for heating until we leave for Florida about Nov. Our primary heat is oil. We drain the water lines and shut-down the house and leave the thermostat on 45 deg. We only use about 50 gal. of oil over the winter months. In Florida, although we have natural gas heat, we use elect space heaters in the rooms that we live in. Electricity is SO,SO, mucher cheaper per BTU than natural gas, there.

Here is PA, the delivery charge is $50.00 if I don't use the minimumn amount of propane. Oil is the same way. So, my point is, Let the neighbors pay the delivery cost.

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