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farmall 340

08-25-2004 17:51:22




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how would you recomend cutting pole barn steel




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Fred OH

08-27-2004 10:17:03




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to farmall 340, 08-25-2004 17:51:22  
A lot of us use our circular saws to cut metal with but, do you use your good saw like a Milwaukee or such or do you use an old junker type saw? I"m pretty proud of my good saw. It can be kinda hard on a saw with all the metal sparks bouncing around the air openings on the saw. I know a lot of bosses on a job would tell you to use the good saw cause we gotta get this job done. Hard to take care of a good tool in a situation like that. Fred OH

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Leland

08-26-2004 14:14:00




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to farmall 340, 08-25-2004 17:51:22  
We always used a tool called a nibbler, this tool cuts straght angles and curves great. a must have tool for roof and wall covering(metal)



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MarkB

08-27-2004 04:01:27




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to Leland, 08-26-2004 14:14:00  
Another vote for the nibbler. It's much safer than a Skil saw, you can cut corners, and the cut edges are not as sharp as those cut by a saw. And the sound is much easier on your ears.

The downside is that it doesn't do straight lines well, but for siding your cut edges are always covered by trim so it's no big deal.



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TheRealRon

08-26-2004 04:56:36




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to farmall 340, 08-25-2004 17:51:22  
Angle grinder with the thin cut-off wheel. By far the fastest way; you need gloves and goggles and a practiced hand.



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FranNY

08-25-2004 21:15:00




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to farmall 340, 08-25-2004 17:51:22  
Sears has A new saw with counter rotating blades for fast cuting sheet metal-- one blade turns one way and the other turns the other way--- it ain't cheap.. Fran



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Andy2

08-25-2004 19:54:43




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to farmall 340, 08-25-2004 17:51:22  
If you have a large prodject I'd get a duck bill shear. It looks like a drill with a shear on the end. It takes some getting used to to cross cut but it makes a nice cut with little or no burr.



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Zane(WA)

08-25-2004 21:23:23




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to Andy2, 08-25-2004 19:54:43  
Yep, those shears are quieter, and about as fast as a torch. The cuts are far more accurate than using a cut-off blade in a circular saw, but above all -- they are much SAFER.



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LD

08-26-2004 02:07:06




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to Zane(WA), 08-25-2004 21:23:23  
Hey, i didn't have any trouble making straight cuts with a circular saw, but metal splinters and shape edges were a hazard. I was cutting panels rated for 110 mile per hour winds so maybe the thickness helped. It was no picnic. Do those new shears distort the metal at all? I have seen electric shears like the hand shears but don't see why they wouldn't bind like hand shears do.



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RZ(WA)

08-26-2004 11:24:03




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to LD, 08-26-2004 02:07:06  
Hey LD,
I wasn't trying to say the panels couldn't be cut to size and shape with a circular saw, just that it was a much cleaner and safer cut with the power shears. I've used both and prefer the shears to a circular saw for both accuracy and safety. The shears are lighter in weight, dosen't throw sparks or shards and if the cut begins to get off line it can be quicker and easier to reset the cut than can be with a circular saw. As I write this, I remember using a Sawzall a time or two prior to getting a power shear. That was kind of a toss-up over the circular, I thought I had bettter control of the cut but it was heavier and a bit cumbersome.

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LD

08-26-2004 22:32:26




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to RZ(WA), 08-26-2004 11:24:03  
Just curious about those shears, how they worked. The hand type always bind on me. I had held off from buying the power version for that reason and was wondering if they overpowered the binding action. We have to use 16 gauge wind rated panels for hurricanes, highly ridged for strength. The thickness makes a differance, the metal nibbler mentioned wont work on this stuff like it will on metal 18 to 20 GA. It would be nice to avoid splinters and flying metal sparks if the shears work good. I'll try renting one.

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Mike M

08-25-2004 17:57:34




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to farmall 340, 08-25-2004 17:51:22  
The guys that did mine used an offset tin snips to cut across and to go lenthwise they scored it with a utility knife then bent it and it just snapped off. This new stuff is thin and seems like a high tensile. Hard to start the nails as it is springy.



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txblu

08-26-2004 06:00:36




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to Mike M, 08-25-2004 17:57:34  
If you"re talking about 29 ga, 26" galvanized, corrugated sheating, lay it on top of a wire on the ground, stand on it and pull up on the wire between your feet. Will cut right thru it.

If you"re talking about perlins, chop saw.

26 ga sheating, large tin snips.

Mark



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msb

08-25-2004 19:07:13




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to Mike M, 08-25-2004 17:57:34  
What I have always done is use a plywood blade put on backwards in a power hand saw.John Deere and others now have a saw that goes through steel like cutting butter.We recently used one to cut HEAVY metal roof decking at church.Unbelievably fast and efficient.Going to check one out.It could be handier than a chop saw for many jobs.

Think you can just buy the blade now and use it is a regular handsaw Would say for casual use on thin stuff only, I imagine.

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Ld

08-25-2004 19:41:45




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to msb, 08-25-2004 19:07:13  
I used a metal cutting blade in my power saw on the flat parts of the panel. The same type blade as a chop saw has but fits in a 7 1/4 circular saw. For the ridges of the panel I used an air powered cutoff tool, also called a muffler cutoff saw. This is much slower at cutting and uses about a 3 inch metal cutting blade, but would work where the circular saw would bind. Also tried an air powered metal nibbler tool but metal was too thick for that and it just kept getting stuck. I was cutting panels called R panels much higher ridges than corrigated steel. After the cut i dressed all the sharp edges with a grinder and put paint on them.

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Bill Blakeslee

10-25-2004 19:20:57




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 Re: cutting pole barn steel in reply to Ld, 08-25-2004 19:41:45  
I sell a shear to cut pole barn steel
it is the only way to go,fast,safe fax 231-734-6815



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