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7 - 16ths wrench?

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greenengr

08-21-2004 15:10:39




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I went to pull the starter off my Massey Ferg 135 and could not find a 7/16 inch wrench any where in my tool box. Is this size no longer used?




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Nathan in MN

08-22-2004 14:03:09




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
We have a similar problem at home. For some inexplicable reason, our 7/16 wrenches always migrate up to the house from the garage. I guess I should count myself lucky, since I can still find them, although they are still a bit inconvenient.



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720Deere

08-22-2004 13:34:19




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
I don't know who is taking them, but it may be the same guy that steals socks from the laundry. Whoever it is, the little SOB is dropping your wrenches off at my house. I had to laugh when I read this post as I seem to have about 3 more 7/16 than wrench sets. I think the little guy may be doing a swap since I have a few sockets missing.



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Shane

08-22-2004 09:03:36




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
Funny you should bring this up. Got a nice Craftsman set about 4 years ago and two months later lost the 7/16 wrench... dad uses the set also! Well funny thing, about a month ago I was hooking up the gooseneck and looked down to see what was reflecting the sun, I'll be darned it was my long lost wrench. Had a bit of rust on one end of the handle part but she polished up nicely.



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Steve Crum

08-21-2004 21:34:19




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
Geez you guys must have small nuts! 9/16" and 3/4" are the ones I can never find. I buy a hand full of the cheap ones about every 6 months. Straight blade prydrivers are about the same story. Dad once said if these things started to grow we"d have to go back to steel wheels to get anything done besides fixin' tires.



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CRUSADER

08-21-2004 21:04:19




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
When you find your 7/16th's wrench. Take a look around to see if some of the numerous slip joint pliers, 8" adjustable wrenches or medium size straight blade screwdrivers that I have lost are in the vicinity. In the early 80's when I was working in the garages, I think I spent more money on these tools than I did on any others.

later days mate,
Jim



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RJ-AZ

08-21-2004 19:13:57




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
Y'all must be lightweight mechanics losing that LITTLE wrench all the time. As for me myself I always am losing the 1/2" wrenches from my set.

I takes a good wench to loosen a tight nut!!!



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JeremyR

08-21-2004 18:48:25




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
Get a half dozen cheap ones from a pawn shop and you can't throw them away with out finding them later. Buy one good one ( craftsman, snap on mac etc)and it won't last 2 minutes.

Jeremy



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TheRealRon

08-21-2004 18:39:00




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
The metric police have converted it to 11mm.



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mikey

08-21-2004 18:35:23




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
look for a 14/32 nds



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Tom Ridge code name Tombo

08-21-2004 17:52:12




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 National Defense in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
You my fellow patriotic Citizens must not catch the news.

My office has released a bulletin that all 7/16 wrenches have been recalled by Homeland Security until further notice due to the war effort. Updates will be released as needed.

We hope to rectify this problem on or around Nov 2, 2004

Thank you for your patriotism and patience. Uncle Tom



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DL

08-21-2004 20:09:01




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Tom Ridge code name Tombo, 08-21-2004 17:52:12  
all you guys are so hilarious I can't stand it. No really, I can't stand it. This is a tractor discussion forum... why must liberals politicize EVERYTHING????



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sleeper

08-21-2004 22:39:01




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 Re: National Defense in reply to DL, 08-21-2004 20:09:01  
Your right of course, its the factors related to tractors i think trickling down. Folks have less to put into the old tractor due to the price of steel, plywood, fuel ,food and medical care skyrocketing just to name a few and the national debt out of control again. I wish the big issue was still the president lied. But the economy was good and national debt paid.

The stupid thing is the president has to lie everyday, the people in china korea russia iran iraq, and so on are not honest with us or their own people and he has to be able to deal with them. I notice little George just never answers a direct ?. I'm not liberal but i know were not better off than we were 4 years ago and thats not to say we would be with Gore either. But with Clinton we knew what we had, and we know he could do the job and did a hell of a job paying our bills off back to the Reagan era. I'm wondering if gas is going to be $4 a gallon in 4 more years of Little George. At least clinton opened the fuel reserves to control prices and thought of the average man. Even red diesel is out of sight. Enough said. There are wrench sets leaving out the 7/16--don't know why. You better stock up on the 12 point if your bleeding a JD fuel filter or roosta master pump.

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Big Eddie

08-22-2004 12:51:31




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 Re: National Defense in reply to sleeper, 08-21-2004 22:39:01  
Unfortunately your ignorance has caused you to spout the typical liberal lines. Don't let facts get in your way, just babble whatever the tragedy networks tell you. I have owned my own business for over 25 years and am doing better now than ever. The simple reason is that I don't blame all my shortcomings on the government nor do I expect my government to hold my hand everytime I do anything. I don't ask for handouts and I don't make excuses, I just work hard.

Just one tidbit. When Slick Willie was president the unemployment rate was about 6% at one time during his tenure. The tragedy networks declared that to be full employment as you always have some people that can't work, won't work or are just unhireable. Now the rate is around 5 1/2%.

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sleeper

08-23-2004 08:49:47




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Big Eddie, 08-22-2004 12:51:31  
Your a rude guy. Hope that bug in your as* stops biting. Your rude and need to be answered. Look up the meaning of manners in a dictionary, you forgot what your parents,or church, or school taught you about them.

I see the facts everytime i go to the gas station, pay my light bill or buy a sheet of plywood, next is suppose to be concrete. Learn to think for yourself, its right in front of you at the cash register.

I don't agree with the tree hugger laws, that have been relaxed giving your bus. a boom. (one of the few and one that hasn't gone offshore, but wetbacked for sure amigo.) Thank low interest rates you super genius--GREENSPAN not bush.
Clinton cut many budgets including military, if he was wrong how did we still kick butt in Iraq and Afgan? Because we had enough. Look at all the surplus your tax dollars paid for being sold on ebay for pennies on the dollar now. And he got the price of fuel back down-quick. Clinton did try to help the little man, he tried to give everyone health care. Until the Insurance co's and pill co's and everyone else in the industry who makes a killing smeared his effort so they could continue to rake it in. Do you remember those big ad campaigns and commercials paid for by those drug and insurance co's? If you can think for yourself consider this...your guaranteed mail delivery by your goverment 6 days a week. If you have a heart attack and your insurance info is missing or wrong or your can't afford it, your likely to die. No one will help you. Goverment can't solve all problems. But in the richest nation in the world every citizen should have the right to medical care and medicine as needed and the quality of life that provides. If we had that, we would have DR's who are in it because they care about people and enjoy their work instead of people and huge corporations who just want $$$. I can't support any one in either party who continues to ignore the sick and elderly. We need to help those that can't help themselves because of greedy corporations. That's what decent people do. Already drugs have been dropped from medicare 's approved list We won't see guarnteed care under little George but the goverment will continue in the mail business and George's favorite chruch will get a handout. All churches have applied for his program, but none have been given money but his! You Talk about goverment shouldn't solve problems or give handouts. Our Fore fathers made chruch and state seperate because they thought the two shouldn't mix at all. Right now were paying for teen programs in George's church in Houston TX. Shouldn't their parents pay for their recreation?

It's too bad it's not an open system and others haven't challenged him from his party. He would smear them because he has the $ to do so. I can't agree with all issues with either party, there all a little bit crooked. But i can agree with a strong economy, low debt and inflation and Clinton did it, Bush hasn't. LIKE IT OR NOT. He was a leader and we need one who can think for himself. Right now the middleclass is being destroyed in M.OP
Let's get back to tools, maybe there's something you can contribute instead of insults. Do you help anyone or just read to help yourself,ask yourself what have you contributed. Nothing on the board except ill will.

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Big Eddie

08-23-2004 19:06:19




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 Re: National Defense in reply to sleeper, 08-23-2004 08:49:47  
I am rude? Apparently anyone who disagrees with you is rude then. I think referring to the President of the United States as a stupid imbecile and "little george" is rude not to mention very disrespectful.

However, if you think I am some big greedy corporation then so be it. I am just a simple guy who has worked hard since I was a kid and never looked to anyone to blame for my problems. In the 25 years I have been in business I have changed what I do a half dozen times in order to make a living. I don't do anything that I did when I started. The market changed so I did too. The reason I am self employed because I lost my job as a finish carpenter when President Carters 18% interest rates shut down the home building business.

As far as taking care of the elderly, my Dad passed away last month at the age of 82. I took care of any medical costs that the VA didn't cover so he wouldn't have to worry about it. He was also a lifelong construction worker who died a modest man.

If you want socialized medicine then move to Canada and see how poor their care is.

We live in a capatalistic society where the cost of goods depends on many factors. If you want to blame the President for the cost of plywood, then go ahead. I,m sure he can control the global market. The rst of your statements don't make any sense so I won't address them.

As I told Mr. Burrhead, he may disagree with me but I respect his right to do so. I certainly wouldn't condemn him for thinking the way he does. I enjoy listening to different points of view but don't have much time for arguing, name calling and spewing statements that are just not true. You can get your point across alot better without the condescending tone.

I read this forum alot as I am always learning new things even if I disagree with some of the responses. Be well all.

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wondering

08-25-2004 19:19:25




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Big Eddie, 08-23-2004 19:06:19  
just wondering about calling president names when Clinton was in it seemed like it was allright for Rep to do it , I believe there should be equal time.



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A. Liberal

08-24-2004 02:57:35




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Big Eddie, 08-23-2004 19:06:19  
Looks like your father partook of the "free medical" benefits from the US government VA.

"As far as taking care of the elderly, my Dad passed away last month at the age of 82. I took care of any medical costs that the VA didn"t cover so he wouldn"t have to worry about it."

Am I wrong or is the VA funded by taxes?
Doesn"t sound too capitalistic to me to take advantage of government welfare.

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woah, there

08-26-2004 08:08:54




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 Re: National Defense in reply to A. Liberal, 08-24-2004 02:57:35  
Don't care about the rest of this thread, but the last comment got me ticked: Veteran's benefits are EARNED. They are not a handout to anybody, rather they are an obligation that the people of the United States have to veterans for services rendered and injury and illness resulting thereto.

As long as I'm talking, I think calling names of any Predident, whether Mr. Bush or Mr. Clinton, is downright rude. Although I believe one of them was the worst President in history, I have never, and would never, call him a name in public.

Bkeepr

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Sleeper

08-27-2004 15:26:34




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From the Thread National Defense

Hey Bkeepr,
I don't know if you or anyone else is still monitoring this thread. I remember back in the sixties when JFK was shot, there was a fanatical group who ran a full back page ad in the newspaper. This was in the Dallas morning news on the day he was shot there. The ad accused Mr Kennedy of Treason, but began with "Mr. President".

I think that was a form of ettiquette taught and practiced in that era or earlier. I can't recall being taught that myself. It was proper to refer to the president in other terms if it was positive. All the way with JFK was a popular chant of supporters. An interesting tidbit of history. The first widespread public name calling i recall was at Nixon and had a dual obscene meaning using his nickname: Tricky Dick. I guess at that time it became common pratice not to use Mr president or Mr.

With todays programs on the radio from the far right and left there is a lot of negativity which began with Rush Limbal and has spread. On TV the inside politics program debates both pro and con on the president. It has become an entertainment business. Of course they must follow the FCC standards. Now public figures live in glass houses due to these shows. A lot of people on this board are rude in a personnal manner unfortunately. Keep it friendly and keep it clean is not followed. I have a thick skin myself because i know there are alot of people who become abusive when angry. That's just the only thing they can think to do and a sign of lower intelligence. A man who is trusted to be president needs composure. We can't have him falling apart in anger and losing his normal judgement when he's called names by hecklers. You have to be tough to lead. Now there is an off topic forum to vent or express your views.

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Sleeper

08-24-2004 18:30:24




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 Re: National Defense in reply to A. Liberal, 08-24-2004 02:57:35  
If you can get yourself elected to congress or the senate you will have free medical care for life. Both parties voted for and approved that benefit for themselves. Look that fact up.

Healthcare should be a right for all americans. Matters of life and death and quality of life should be based on need not profit. Perhaps our forefathers and Thomas Jefferson didn't include healthcare in the Bill of Rights because there was little medical knowledge at that time and life expectancy was 40 years.

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Big Eddie

08-24-2004 18:49:06




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Sleeper, 08-24-2004 18:30:24  
It all comes down to who pays for it. Is there any country that does it now so that me may use it as a model? I have never heard any politician coming up with a reasonable plan. I believe Vermont tried it and they are now neck deep in debt. I believe that if we had sensible tort reform the costs would go down. A great deal of the medical cost is for liability insurance. Kind of a lose/lose situation. What is a reasonable solution? Who will pay for it? If I was forced to supply health insurance for my employees I couldn't do it since it costs about a thousand dollars per month for the premium. My wife dislikes her job but stays because we need the health insurance. What to do?

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wondering againSam@quw

08-25-2004 19:23:56




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Big Eddie, 08-24-2004 18:49:06  
It is all right for your wifes employer to pay health ins but not for you fot your employees Kinda one sided I would say



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Big Eddie

08-24-2004 04:56:06




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 Re: National Defense in reply to A. Liberal, 08-24-2004 02:57:35  
My Dad was given care by the VA because he ended up in a hospital in Africa during WWII fighting for your right to free speech. Ask any veteran if they think they consider that to be socialized medicine. Personally, I consider it payback for a job well done.



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Sleeper

08-23-2004 21:40:44




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Big Eddie, 08-23-2004 19:06:19  
Calling me ignorant was rude. Everyone is free to disagree with me on any issue. There was no need for name calling or disrespect of me or anyone else on this board. If you did respect other people on this board and their right to disagree you wouldn't have posted what you did. We can read, your posts didn't disappear.

If you feel i'm disrespectful of the president thats fine. We have freedom of speech in this country to speak for or against elected officals. He aint the worst or best and i think the price of fuel is a payback to the energy companies for supporting him. When he bailed out the airline industry with billons of taxpayers dollars, he could have gotten vouchers for goverment officals to travel for free in exchange for the bailout. He didn't, now the taxpayers pay again each time a goverment employee travels. That's not representing the taxpayer or americas best interest by saddling us with more national debt. Why wasn't it a loan with no interest? Was he paying back them back for campaign money or was that just poor leadership and decision making. He boasts of his tax cuts for upper incomes despite spending billions. I'm sure he himself does not care what i think of his performance.

Clinton came to be president from poverty without a father. He turned out to be dishonest to his wife and lied about that. He made mistakes like most people do at some time but more serious than most. In spite of that, He was a good leader and left the country strong without debt.

Bush came to be president because of his father and his connections to raise money and because of our electoral college voting system. Otherwise we would never have heard of him. Perhaps Mccain would be president, had he not been smeared early on. Now were in debt worst than before in less than 4 years, prices have skyrocketed on oil, steel, plywood, power and rumored concrete next and jobs are going offshore crippling economys in states like Ohio. He can't lower plywood, we are all paying for that to go over and rebuild Iraq. I hope we are better off in 4 years. My own business is off 50% and if interest rates rise so will your construction business. These are my opinions and observations. Feel free to disagree but don't disrespect me in doing so.

Now you have quite a dilema. You have to live in a country with socialized mail and partially socialized air travel. An oil industry socialized with the first 25% of profits tax free and Americans like me who will stand up to you for your rude behavior.

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DH in Carolina

08-23-2004 13:10:14




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 Re: National Defense in reply to sleeper, 08-23-2004 08:49:47  
Thank You Sleeper I feel the same way. Danny Hearl



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Sleeper

08-24-2004 18:47:18




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 Re: National Defense in reply to DH in Carolina, 08-23-2004 13:10:14  
We should be able to discuss any topic, express our views and agree or disagree without insult. If you observe whats going on, notice what people do, instead of what they say, analyze their actions and think for yourself, you will likely make an intelligent and informed decision. Best regards Danny



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Big Eddie

08-22-2004 15:30:56




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Burrhead, 08-22-2004 14:37:21  
Mr. Burrhead, Actually I have been a construction worker all my life and have a high school degree but getting a medical degree doesn't sound too bad. Then I could find a cure for those that are willing to believe everything they hear.



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Burrhead

08-22-2004 15:46:39




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Big Eddie, 08-22-2004 15:30:56  
Well to be honest it sounds like you been listening to Rush and Bill way too much. You sound just like all the shows I have been subjected to.

If you forget which side you"re on and crunch the numbers for Clinton and compare them to either Bush then Clinton comes across more as the conservative.



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big fred

08-23-2004 15:25:31




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Burrhead, 08-22-2004 15:46:39  
Yup, I agree, Burr. The federal gummint ain"t got no business in subsidizing prescription drugs, funding or controlling education or any of them other social engineering things that Bush has gotten passed. Gotta admit, that Clinton did real good when he signed the welfare reform bill, too. I guess that shows ain"t no administration so bad that nothing good could come of it, nor so good that something bad can"t come of it.

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Big Eddie

08-22-2004 16:24:58




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Burrhead, 08-22-2004 15:46:39  
Mr. Burrhead,
I will agree to disagree with you and respect your right to do so. My opinions and beliefs come from personal experience as do yours. Let's get back to finding wrenches. And let me know where all the tape measures end up. I can't find a single one today.

ALM



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Burrhead

08-22-2004 16:40:13




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Big Eddie, 08-22-2004 16:24:58  
I can only find one tape measure today too. Yer welcome to borrow it if you need to.



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Big Eddie

08-23-2004 19:13:04




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Burrhead, 08-22-2004 16:40:13  
Thanks Mr. Burrhead. About once a month my foreman and I get together to clean out our trucks and exchange all the tools that seem to somehow jump from one truck to the other. It is amazing how many wrenches, tapes and drills seem to escape. It becomes sort of like Christmas find ing all the stuff you lost.



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Jerry Cent mi.

08-24-2004 15:36:04




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 Re: National Defense in reply to Big Eddie, 08-23-2004 19:13:04  
Please post whatever you think the Dumocrats have done in the last three years to help with the economy or jobs. Where can I get the Purple Heart Bandades?



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James in North Carolina

08-22-2004 06:27:37




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 Re: National Defense in reply to sleeper, 08-21-2004 22:39:01  
Clinton opening the strategic petroleum reserve had no effect on gas prices and was nothing more then political grandstanding. He did care about the average guy to the extent he could hoodwink them into buying his lip biting, "I really care about you" routine.

Under Bill Clinton, the deficit was eliminated due to massive cuts in defense spending, the benefit of lower interest rates and accounting gimmicks where liabilities like Social Security are taken out of the budget.

On a happier note, I checked my tool inventory(yes I'm a nerd that has an inventory of his tools) and I have seven 7/16 wrenches from Mac, Wright, Craftsman, SK, New Britain, Husky and SnapOn. I use mine on my mowers more then anywhere else.
James

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Tom Ridge

08-21-2004 20:27:28




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 Re: National Defense in reply to DL, 08-21-2004 20:09:01  
Someone from my office will be in contact with you shortly Mr Concerned Citizen.

Calling any member of this administration is worth 30 minits in the electric chair for you. We don't like you Nader boys anyway.

Thank you,
Unca Tom



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Larry in Tn

08-21-2004 17:49:26




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
I don't leave home without it. I have a 7/16x3/8 open end that I've carried in my pocket for years. So long in fact that the chrome plating is starting wear off. The wrench was sold by Western Auto under the WIZARD brand name. I guess the thing is at least 50yrs old. I hang on to the good ones.



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Earl in AZ

08-21-2004 18:03:04




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to Larry in Tn, 08-21-2004 17:49:26  
Are you sure that John Ashcroft has not declared them indecent and has had Tom Rich go out and get all of them along with flat B----- Files



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Zane(WA)

08-21-2004 16:17:32




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
Use a 28/64th instead. That size seems to confuse 'em and dey don't know what to do so it's leave it where you or the kids last used it.
If you find a 7/16th that doesn't look familar (like spray painted MF or IH Red), it's mine!!



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Coloken

08-21-2004 16:17:04




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
Yep, its the 7/16 gremlins. I loose as many 7/16 wrenchs as all the rest put together.



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msb

08-21-2004 15:50:42




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
Its the wrech gremlins at work.This year is the year they steal as many 7/16" wrenches as they can get their hands on.Last year it was 9/16" combination wrenches and straight blade screwdrivers.Can't find any 7/16" wrenches in my tool boxes either.



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Earl in AZ

08-21-2004 16:06:04




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to msb, 08-21-2004 15:50:42  
I too have had these sorts of problems. How do you KILL the little SOB's.( Gremlins I mean, not "Real Rons" )
Earl



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KX

08-21-2004 19:43:04




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 Re: 7 - 16ths wrench? in reply to Earl in AZ, 08-21-2004 16:06:04  
Earl, You are a Great American!



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RickB

08-21-2004 15:23:12




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 Not used in reply to greenengr, 08-21-2004 15:10:39  
Not until you buy another one. It appears you HAVE been using it, but leaving it out somewhere. 7/16" is the common hex size for 1/4" diameter bolts. Far from obsolete.



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Paul Janke

08-21-2004 20:52:00




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 Re: Not used in reply to RickB, 08-21-2004 15:23:12  
I have no idea why, but I recently noticed that wrench sizes are 1.5 times bolt diameters for sizes greater that 1/4". 5/16" bolts round up 1/32". 7/16" bolts round down and the nuts round up. I don"t remember for 9/16" bolts, but I think they round up. Probably more than you ever wanted to know.



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