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BlueLight

10-20-2000 20:04:42

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The other day a farmer told me to boil off
the old transmission oil I just emptied to get
the water out. He said to heat it up till I see
water vapor and keep it at that temperature. He says slow but works. Anyone heard of this before or have any other
suggestions.

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Blue's solution

10-23-2000 16:14:21

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

It looks like the crud and water just settles
out over time. I had 2, 5gal pails and 1, 2.5gal. I siphoned
one of them down to about 2in from bottom. Then
I dumped out the rest. All the water and crud
was there. I'm filtering out the good stuff now
by passing it through and old cotton bedsheet.
Then I'll pass that through a stainless fine mesh. The oil is passing thru the sheet but
because of viscosity is very slow. Hope the mesh
is faster.

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snitkawl

10-22-2000 13:59:23

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

I`ve had an idea about that. I realize it is a little bit in the future, but how about letting it set outside in freezing weather. Or maybe even set it in a freezer. My thinking is, the water will freeze and you can either pour the oil off or fish the ice out of it. You would have to leave it sit for a while before it froze, so the water would seperate from the oil.

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Salmoneye

10-22-2000 05:00:48

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

If you heat oil to a temp high enough to 'boil off' the water, what you are really doing is thermally breaking down the viscosity of the oil. 90 weight will soon become as effective as 30 weight even though it still looks good and thick.
5 gallon pails of 80w-90w are about $20.00 at K-Mart or Walmart. Keep your tractor under cover, or replace your shifter boots and throw a tarp over the rear, and you shouldn't need to change tranny fluid but once every 4-5 years...

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Justin

10-21-2000 20:00:42

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

I don't know if that will work but if you put about a tea cup of rubbing alcohol in the trans it will disapate the water. It worked in my Farmall M .

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paul

10-22-2000 08:24:10

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Re: Re: Water In TransOil in reply to Justin, 10-21-2000 20:00:42

I can't see where that helps any - might make it look better, but did NOT get rid of the problem????

--->Paul

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MarkB

10-22-2000 04:36:40

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Re: Re: Water In TransOil in reply to Justin, 10-21-2000 20:00:42

Adding alchohol doesn't remove water, it just lets it dissolve in oil. (In fact, you're adding water because rubbing alcohol is 50% water.) If your concern is corrosion, don't go putting alcohol in your oil. Or to your fuel, for that matter.

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Harold Hubbard

10-21-2000 18:40:26

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

If by transmission oil you mean heavy gear oil (80w-90) or something like that, you can clear it up by draining into a clean container and letting it sit for a month or two. Then drain the top off and leave the water and other crud in the bottom of the container. In order to do this and also use the tractor, you will have to buy some new oil use while you are doing this, but that will get water into it by the time the other is ready to use, so just keep switching them. A better idea is to store the tractor under cover when it's raining or snowing.

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kimk

10-21-2000 17:29:04

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

If you do this in the house it is sure to stink up the place something wicked--- the good news is that most of the stink will go away when the house burns down.

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BlueLight - To Sty

10-21-2000 11:30:45

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

Maybe that's why the KFC in these parts taste
kind of funny!. I plan to reuse it in the trans to top up after first passing it through a filter.

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sty

10-21-2000 18:06:48

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Re: Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight - To Sty, 10-21-2000 11:30:45

Ok, just seems like a lot of work.

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T_Bone

10-21-2000 14:39:49

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Re: Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight - To Sty, 10-21-2000 11:30:45

Hi Blue, I read on the net some where, I think it was under a net site that talks about making there own diesel from used cooking oil, that passing the oil thru a paper filter removes the moister. I have also heard this from some old timers.

What I thought about making was a TP filter. You can buy vent pipe for heating/AC very easy that will fit a TP roll. Put a end cap on both ends and solder one end, install a hose tap at that end for a drain on side of the pipe, put another inlet in the center of the of the top cap, take the card board liner out of the TP roll, then install several rolls on top of one another. The oil drips into the center rolls, filters thru the TP to the outside of the pipe, draining out the lower fitting. That should make a good cheap filter.

T_Bone

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Blue-to-TBone

10-21-2000 17:23:31

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Re: Re: Re: Water In TransOil in reply to T_Bone, 10-21-2000 14:39:49

Many years back on TV, a guy was being
interviewed about how he filters oil. Apparently
he used stacked toilet paper rolls and it comes out as gold as a new pint of Pennzoil. Maybe we saw the same program. Don't think
it'll handle the water problem though. With the
quantity and price of gear case oil, I'm giving
it serious thought. Thanks for the tip.

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80 Grit

10-21-2000 07:47:12

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

I worked maintenace for a company with a plating department that used 8 vacuum pumps to evacuate air from small components in order to get the components clean prior to plating. (The plant operated 24/6). This caused the vacuum pumps to collect large amounts of water in the crankcases. It was accepted procedure at the end of each shift to drain the vacuum pumps of the oil/water mix and refill with oil salvaged by the prior shift by doing exactly what the farmer told you. The contaminated oil was salvaged every shift by boiling off the water and recycled continuously for one month. Each new month new oil replaced the old recycled oil. I worked there for three years and cannot remember more than a couple of vacuum pumps failing, all due to valve problems and none from bearing failure. Maybe the old guy is smarter than you have given him credit.

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Rob

10-21-2000 06:26:49

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

I know this farmer. I rebuilt the trans and diff of his tractor last week..... ..

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sty

10-20-2000 20:21:29

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Re: Water In TransOil in reply to BlueLight, 10-20-2000 20:04:42

So whatcha gonna do with it after you boil the water out? Fry Chicken?

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