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tg

08-11-2004 15:53:03




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I'm looking for the best tool out there to sharpen my chain saw. I've seen the ones that the hardware store uses that have a grinding wheel that comes down at the right angle and sharpens, but I'm not quite happy with the way they sharpen. Seems like there's gotta be something out there better than that. (Especially when they charge you 4 bucks and it isn't very sharp!!!!)

I've seen files and Dremmels with attachments too.

What's the best?

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Leland

08-13-2004 23:42:14




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to tg, 08-11-2004 15:53:03  
I agree a chain last longer using a file. But if you use thatjunk anti kick chain you must also file down those runners I call them or chain will not cut as teeth wear down.



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Mike in New Mexico

08-12-2004 17:49:31




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to tg, 08-11-2004 15:53:03  
I use an old bellsaw sharpener I bought years ago from an add in the newspaper for 25 dollars.
it's got a stand and a jig to mount the chain on. it uses a grinding blade set on the head with the right angle, all I do is put the chain on the jig and turn the power on and pull the the head down about 3 times per tooth. ever other one ,then I have to swing the jig over to the other side to sharpen the other teeth.seems to work good but I have to take chain off saw,but at the same time I can clean the saw.-mike

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CRUSADER

08-13-2004 23:55:35




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to Mike in New Mexico, 08-12-2004 17:49:31  
Hey Mike,
Do you sharpen chains for other people, and if so how much do you charge? I got a couple of chains I need sharpened. Had any luck with the Blazer? Drop me an email, or give me a call sometime hopefully I'll be at home. Working the Swing Shift (1430 to 2230) these days and actually get home before midnight sometimes. I am home during the day and sometimes even awake.

later days mate,
Jim

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JT

08-12-2004 16:05:44




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to tg, 08-11-2004 15:53:03  
go with a hand file, if you keep it touched up as often as it quits thowin chips, your chain will last 5 times longer than with a machine. Most people will not quit using a chain when it is dull, they keep pushing for more, then wonder why you loose so much when it is sharped. One other thing with a machine, if you do not know what you are doing, you get the chain hot and loose the temper in the steel. then it will not hold an edge worth a hoot. That is why I recommend getting a file and practice.

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TheRealRon

08-12-2004 18:10:10




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to JT, 08-12-2004 16:05:44  
5 times longer, huh? Is that your actual experience?

While it's a great idea to learn how to sharpen the chain with files, most rookies end up fouling up the compound angle and then the chain never cuts right, they don't know how to fix it, so they throw away a perfectly good chain. And then they do this over and over again.

The tools have chain guides and produce the correct compound angle. This is the most important aspect of sharpening saw chain. This also maximizes chain life.

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JT

08-14-2004 06:32:40




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to TheRealRon, 08-12-2004 18:10:10  
Yep!!!!! !!!!! ! Most of the time when you use a chain grinder you will take off 2-3 times more steel than you will with a hand file. The reason it will last 5 times as long??? yer gonna love this one. If you are doing it by hand, you make your self a lot more careful where you put your chain saw bar to cut. Plus I can get a sharper edge with a file than a grinder using an abrasive wheel, less heat in the chain, so it does not take temper out of steel. Now, if you want to spemd $300.00 to buy a borzon sharpening wheel, it does sharpen better and cooler.

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LeMaverick (TX)

08-12-2004 07:56:01




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 No Mystery in Sharpening Saw Chain in reply to tg, 08-11-2004 15:53:03  
Hi TG,

There is no great mystery in sharpening saw chains. You can very quickly learn to do as good or better a job than some of the �professional� sharpeners. AND, you will probably be more concerned about minimizing grinding on your chains to prolong their life (whereas someone else might be tempted to grind off more tooth material than necessary in the name of efficiency).

It takes only a few minutes with an appropriate file to sharpen a chain. Be sure to use the correct diameter file for your chain. You can also buy a file holder that has a simple guide to help keep alignment correct.

Also, several companies offer rotary sharpeners, on the order of a Dremmel Tool, in either 12 VDC or 110 VAC. This is my preferred way to sharpen. They make quick work of sharpening. Use the proper diameter abrasive grinder bits for your chain. Diamond bits are available quite economically. Take care to not grind so aggressively as to heat the tooth metal (or its temper will change).

Using either the file or the rotary sharpener (usually the latter), if I am working in the shop I hold the saw in my vice by its bar and work with good light and some magnification (to be able to really see the tooth edge). When the tooth edge looks sharp (no shine and no wear marks), especially the outer corner, it is sharp.

It is important also to file the "rakers" every couple or few sharpenings to keep their depth correct in relation to cutting tooth edges. Several companies sell simple and very inexpensive depth gauges for this purpose. This is especially true if you often work in dirty or downed wood as we do. You tend to take more meat off the teeth if you have hit dirt.

You can find loads of information, instructions and equipment by doing a web search on the topic "chainsaw sharpen". Here is one -- Link

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Shane

08-12-2004 05:56:34




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to tg, 08-11-2004 15:53:03  
I took my chain in just a few times when I first started cutting wood and for what it costed I figured I would try it myself. I now use the correct file with a Stihl file guide and handle set. Works real well after a bit or practice and patience. Doesn't take too long to sharpen, could probably have one done by the time you take one in and they do it. Plus you do it right on the saw. Always take it to the woods with me.

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Charles (in GA)

08-11-2004 21:44:43




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to tg, 08-11-2004 15:53:03  
A couple of minutes with gloves and a chain saw file of the right diameter with the handle and guide and you can do just as good a job as those fancy tools. Lots cheaper and faster. I always take the file with me away from the house "just in case"

I watched pros taking down a tree at my dad's house and figured if it worked for them it would work for me. Been doing it for several years now.

Charles

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Dave_N_Ga

08-12-2004 15:13:46




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to Charles (in GA), 08-11-2004 21:44:43  
Charles, Where in Ga are ya?? I need sharpening lessons. I"ve tried using a file to sharpen my chains and can"t come close to the edge and performance I get when the mower shop does them.

Dave



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markct

08-11-2004 19:01:10




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to tg, 08-11-2004 15:53:03  
there is no reason that the hardware store cant make your chain as sharp as new, they probably dont have it adjusted properly or they have the wrong wheel or not dressing it often enough, i worked in a saw shop and when i would sharpen a chain it was as good as new



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RJ-AZ

08-11-2004 18:47:02




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to tg, 08-11-2004 15:53:03  
I bought a chainsaw sharpener from HF that is an inexpensive knockoff of the Oregon bench mounted units. It works real well for me and I carry three spare loops plus one on the bar when I go out. I always like to spend an evening cleaning up my saw and sharpening chains out in the shop.



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TheRealRon

08-11-2004 18:13:11




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 Re: Chain saw sharpener in reply to tg, 08-11-2004 15:53:03  
I log. I use a Dremmel with the saw chain attachment. Fastest way to get the job done.



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