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Crem

08-05-2004 07:47:34




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I am re-landscaping in the back of my house. I have about a 12' wide strip behind my house to a bank and hope to slope it about 6" in this length. I intend to install washed crushed rock over this so that I don't have to mow it and I also park my trailer there at times. I am wondering what I should put under the rock to stop the weeds and also to help the rain water run away. I have some large sheets of used .045 rubber roofing on hand. Would this work out or should I use something else. Thanks for any ideas.

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Crem

08-06-2004 18:41:49




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Crem, 08-05-2004 07:47:34  
Thanks everybody for your input. I am still in the leveling and sloping stage so I have a little while to ponder which approach to take.



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Jaker

08-05-2004 19:17:48




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Crem, 08-05-2004 07:47:34  
You say that you are going to park your trailer on this area so most likely very little grass is going to grow anyway. No sunlight means very few weeds. The fabric is a good idea, it keeps that mud from pumping up through the rock more so than keeping the grass from growing. A lot of people think it is a weed barrier but in reality it is used to stiffen the drive. Most of the weeds grow in the dirt that is between the rock. Just like weeds growing in concrete, the weeds grow in the dirt that has drifted and fell in the cracks. Your best bet is to keep a little roundup or other weed killer on hand as you are always going to have the stray weed pop up.

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naz

08-05-2004 17:58:15




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Crem, 08-05-2004 07:47:34  
If you can find some old carpet that's being thrown out put that down,it last forever and allows drainage,heavier the better!!!Good luck.



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RZ

08-05-2004 17:35:43




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Crem, 08-05-2004 07:47:34  
Spread a long-lasting sterilant under the fabric and be done with it!! However,both the non-woven geo-frabic or the roofing membrane will work fine..... for awhile.
Ground moisture, rain, fog, dew, etc will eventually (in a coupla years) find their way through small holes in whatever groundcover is put down.



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EngineerJoyce

08-05-2004 11:52:12




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Crem, 08-05-2004 07:47:34  
Non-woven Geotextile. The heavy stuff used in construction, not the thin flimsy junk for landscaping.

Make sure your base has no rocks. lay the geotextile, burying all edges. Put down a 4"-6" layer of Dense Graded Aggregate (or trafficbound or whatever it is called locally - crushed stone that ranges in size from powder to 1") Wet it and pack it. Then apply your pretty stuff and pack it into the top of the other rock. Should stay 'til doomsday - unless your dog digs it up.

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Crem

08-05-2004 13:16:59




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to EngineerJoyce, 08-05-2004 11:52:12  
I planned on using the crushed rock like you mentioned except get the washed stuff and use that because there is less grit when you walk on it. I could use the crushed rock with the fines in it if that would work better. That would be my top coat. Are there any other thoughts against using the .045 rubber roofing. The local roofing company gives this stuff away when they re-roof flat top buildings. I have large enough pieces to cover the full 12', and I thought that it would direct the water away from the house better. I use the smaller pieces of this roofing to cover my machinery that sit outdoors.

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EngineerJoyce

08-05-2004 14:04:10




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Crem, 08-05-2004 13:16:59  
I don"t know how well that rubber roofing stuff would hold up to being topped with stone then driven on. I"ve never messed with it. It needs to be able to stretch and not be cut by the stones.

I suggest the stuff with the fines because if it"s wetted and tamped it will pack to nearly like concrete. If you use washed (clean) stone on top of impervious rubber, I would worry about 2 things. 1. rock being washed off by a large rain and 2. rocks rolling off the area. Any rock without fines or unpacked will roll. Look at most gravel roads, the fines have packed down with some of the rock then the rock that"s not bound by the fines just rolls to the center and edges of the road.

And you may want to steepen the slope the first couple feet from the house (say, 6" in 2"), then flatten to the 6" in 10" for the rest to make sure there isn"t an accidental back gradient at the edge of the house.

Sorry, I can"t give you a real good answer. Best of luck.

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buck

08-05-2004 11:32:55




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Crem, 08-05-2004 07:47:34  

sooner or later that crushed stone is going to work it's way thru the fabric and here comes the grass. My mother did an area like that a number of years ago and when the fabric edges and pieces became a newsence she wanted it removed-could have used a dozer. I would suggest soil sterilant and just the stones.



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MAC,IL

08-05-2004 10:25:50




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Crem, 08-05-2004 07:47:34  
Dont see why that roofing wouldnt work. BUT when we did some creek renovation, we used the landscape fabric. conned a contractor out of what we needed off his 20 ft wide roll. He wasn't out nothing, I suppose someone else already paid for it. Anything you have to lap, grass will find its way to the top.



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Geo in SD

08-05-2004 07:50:54




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Crem, 08-05-2004 07:47:34  
Heavy duty landscape fabric.



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caseyc

08-05-2004 11:25:52




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to Geo in SD, 08-05-2004 07:50:54  
off topic here but where are you at geo? i'm in toronto.



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Geo in SD

08-05-2004 12:55:59




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 Re: Landscaping around the house in reply to caseyc, 08-05-2004 11:25:52  
Between Beresford amd Canton.



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