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Grant

08-02-2004 07:55:44




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Can someone post a link to a god wire size calculator. I had one - paige somthing- but I lost it.

Thanks, Grant




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Mark/

08-08-2004 14:40:30




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Grant, 08-02-2004 07:55:44  
Grant,

Here is one that I have used.


http://www.stanselectric.com/vdrop.html



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buickanddeere... cut curr

08-07-2004 10:33:26




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Grant, 08-02-2004 07:55:44  
If power factor correction capacitors are used at the motor to improve power factor to at leats .9 and better .95+ to 1.0. The current will be reduced to about 12.0 amp. Wires could be down sized one or two.



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Grant

08-02-2004 22:11:33




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Grant, 08-02-2004 07:55:44  
Thanks guys,

I am installing another pump 800 feet from my 200 amp 600V splitter. The new pump is 15 HP 600 V - about 15 amps to run. I run all Al ACWU underground because it is cheaper than Teck 90 Cu.

I do get my neighbor - electricion to do the install, but I like the wire size calculator because it gives me a good idea where to locate my pumps without having to call him every couple of days.

I think the site I had the link for was Paige Point Power or something like that. I had it saved in favorites, but it seems to have dissapeard (my wife was house cleaning).

Thanks again, I am sure I will figure it out, if not I will pester my neighbor.

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MarkB

08-03-2004 04:09:43




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Grant, 08-02-2004 22:11:33  
Grant,

If you google on "wire size calculator", a whole bunch of links come up. The link for Paige is below, but it only goes to 480V.

Here's my calculations, for what it's worth.

Voltage: 600Vrms phase-to-phase
Power: 15 HP
Power Factor: Assume 0.7

Power in Watts equals 15 x 746 = 11,190 W
Power per phase equals 11,190 / 3 = 3730 W
Volt-amps per phase equals 3730 / .7 = 5328 VA

Phase to neutral voltage equals 600 divided by the square root of 3 (1.7) equals 346 V

Current per phase equals 5328 / 346 = 15 amps! You were right.

Now to figure voltage drop per phase

10 ga Cu: 1 ohm per 1000 ft. times 800 ft at 15 amps equals 12 volts per phase = 3.5 percent

8 ga Cu: .8 ohm per 100 ft is 10 volts or 3 percent.

Assuming that a three percent voltage drop is acceptable, 8 gauge or larger copper should do the trick. Of course, bigger is always better.

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Quentin

12-13-2005 14:25:53




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 MarkB Re: wire size calculator in reply to MarkB, 08-03-2004 04:09:43  
I know this is an old posting, so maybe nobody is watching this, but I'm trying to work out the size of cable required for wind generators. These are three phase 24V to 48V machines, so voltage drop is quite critical.

The bit I'm not sure of is how to calculate the current per phase. Lets say we have a 1KW machine at 48V. Thats give or take 20 amps (at high production the battery voltage will usually rise to abut 50V).

On a three phase generator with three wires (no neutral) is the current simply 20 divided by 3 or is it 20 divided by the square root of 3? Can't seem to find this anywhere.

Best wishes, Quentin.

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Grant

08-03-2004 14:08:41




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to MarkB, 08-03-2004 04:09:43  
Hi Mark,
I found the proper Paige Wire Calculator, it is www.paigewire.com/agwirecalc.asp . It is similar to the link from you, but the 600 volts can be entered. Luckily I had it bookmarked on my dad's computer still.

Thanks again, Grant



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Grant

08-03-2004 09:07:18




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to MarkB, 08-03-2004 04:09:43  
Thanks Mark,

Thats about what I figured - I will probably use 6 or 4 Al ACWU.

Thanks everyone for you advice and replies, Grant



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MarkB

08-02-2004 19:42:12




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Grant, 08-02-2004 07:55:44  
Grant,

The wire doesn't know if it's hooked up to single phase or three phase. It only has two ends!



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John Humphrey Morocco IN.

08-02-2004 19:25:04




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Grant, 08-02-2004 07:55:44  
#14=25 amps
#12=30 "
#10=40 "
# 8=55 "
# 6=75 "
# 4=95 "
# 3=110 "
# 2=130 "
# 1=150 " and so on (from table 310.16 NEMA)
I would need more specs to give you correct #`s for a proper setup. JOHN



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Bill

08-02-2004 14:40:08




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Grant, 08-02-2004 07:55:44  
Hers one to incude distance...
http://www.stanselectric.com/vdrop.html



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Grant

08-02-2004 17:05:56




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Bill, 08-02-2004 14:40:08  
Thanks, but I need one that does three phase 600 Volts.



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arthur

08-02-2004 20:19:48




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Grant, 08-02-2004 17:05:56  

wire size by numbers gives you the amper capaity to savely use with out over heating it the voltage used on the wire needs insulation value so it wont fail to ground the national electrial code book has all this information you need usualy electrial supply houses have these books for sale or some times theyhave a small book with just the information you need for simple jobs .



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Jim K

08-02-2004 19:35:38




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Grant, 08-02-2004 17:05:56  
Unless I'm having a brain fart you'd use the same chart, unless of course you want to use alluminum wire.



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Jim Ulmer

08-02-2004 21:45:41




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 Re: wire size calculator in reply to Jim K, 08-02-2004 19:35:38  
There are a number of different tables to use depending on the type of insulation and it's tempreture rating. There are other factors like how many wires in a conduit and how long the run is. Unless you do it a lot, using ther NEC tables is best. You can buy a pocket version of part of the code for a lot less money that the complete big book.



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