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Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building

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JHesler

07-30-2004 06:50:16




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I'm rebuilding all the brake cylinders on my truck. I want to coat the polished surfaces with rubber grease to prevent rust. Rubber grease is a special formula made from vegetable oils that does not attack EDPM rubber. I can't find the stuff though. The one on line source I thought I had replied that his supplier no longer carries it. Does anyone know of a source for "Castrol Rubber Grease Red #3"? Castrol's web site lists it but I can't find any suppliers. Also goes under the names of Lockheed Red #3 and Girling Red #3. Thanks.

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Ed

07-30-2004 11:50:22




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 Re: Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building in reply to JHesler, 07-30-2004 06:50:16  
what I use at my Brake Shop is called Sil-Glyde (not sure of spelling) comes in a tube , silicone grease....good stuff



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SteveB(wi)

08-03-2004 06:52:07




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 Re: Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building in reply to Ed, 07-30-2004 11:50:22  
I buy it at NAPA. use it on brakes, and to lube hood rubbers to prevent squeeks.



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Loren

07-31-2004 09:37:56




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 Re: Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building in reply to Ed, 07-30-2004 11:50:22  
That's what I use, works real good. Think the spelling's right.



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Mike M

07-30-2004 07:13:56




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 Re: Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building in reply to JHesler, 07-30-2004 06:50:16  
How about any one of the silicone grease products around for the boots and sliders on disk brake cars,it should be safe for rubber. I also would use silicone brake fluid to protect the insides.



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JHesler

07-30-2004 07:25:04




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 Re: Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building in reply to Mike M, 07-30-2004 07:13:56  
Thanks Mike, I was thinking about silicone as a last resort. DOT5 (silicone)fluid solves some problems over DOT4 ie. water absorption but the drawback is it lets water puddle at the lowest point in the system and cause rust. Also it entraps air very easily. I've heard that a DOT5 system will always have a spongy feel. This truck is 36,000# GVWR. I can't afford to have any worries in the brake system.

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Mike M

07-30-2004 12:54:12




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 Re: Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building in reply to JHesler, 07-30-2004 07:25:04  
I put DOT 5 from Meskegon Brake in Michigan in our 1981 Ford F350 quite a few years back no problems and same pedal feel. I think it says you can mix it just don't use it on anti-lock brakes. I just drained out the old poured in the new ,nice purple color also,then bleed real good until I had clear purple fluid in my bleeder. It also won't damage paint when spilled on it. I also did this to a 1983 K10 chevy ran it a long time but don't have it now. I never had any problems with it .I was told it prevents rust as it doesn't draw moisture like reg. fluid. I think DOT 4 is a semi synthetic.

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big fred

07-30-2004 10:37:21




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 Re: Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building in reply to JHesler, 07-30-2004 07:25:04  
You do NOT want to put DOT-5 in a system that has ever had DOT-3 or DOT-4 in it. The two are not compatible, and since the rubber parts absorb some of the fluid, the rubber seals will deteriorate in very short order. I have never seen anyone make a good case for using DOT-5 in any except racing applications where it's high temperature qualities are important and where it will be changed out fairly frequently.

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Grey Rock

07-30-2004 20:59:03




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 Re: Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building in reply to big fred, 07-30-2004 10:37:21  
Baloney, Brake fluid IS NOT absorbed by any rubber brake parts ! If it was, the cups would expand and leak very quickly. I would, however flush and rebuild the system to clean out the existing rust and crud that brake fluid generates.



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Chester

07-30-2004 16:30:31




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 Re: Rubber Grease for Brake Re-building in reply to big fred, 07-30-2004 10:37:21  

Thanks for that heads up info, see Link for further info.



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Jake

07-30-2004 21:01:50




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 Silicone Brake Fluid Myths.... Here we go again! in reply to Chester, 07-30-2004 16:30:31  
Here we go again spreading around the Silicone brake fluid myths. How, when, and where does this water that settles to the low spots get in the system????? And whoever ever suggested flushing it annualy..... THINK FIRST..... If there was actually any water settled in the low spots, flushing is NOT going to get it out. Ever notice all the bleeder screws are on the TOP of these things you are flulshing and you claim water has settled to the bottom ????? ARGH!! If some of you dingbells had any COMMON SENSE you could figure out this stuff on your own!!

I replaced ALL the brake components on my 1976 vitage car about 6 or 7 years ago and installed DOT 5 Silicone Brake Fluid. It works just the same as the old Dot 3 stuff. The system has not leaked a drop anywhere, I have never had to add any ever, and when I remove the top of the master cylinder the fluid is just as crystal clear purple as it was the day I installed it. I can see all the way to the bottom of the master cylinder reservoir and see the rough finish of the cast iron. There is NO rust inside anywhere and there is NO WATER in the system.

If the DOT 5 Silicone fluid is so problematic then tell me WHY it is used in small air craft brake systems????? ?????

Oh, yes, I have read the Silicone fluid has a slight spongyness to it and that DOT 3 does not and this is why it is not to be used in ABS systems.

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JHesler

08-05-2004 07:56:19




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 Re: Silicone Brake Fluid Myths.... Here we go agai in reply to Jake, 07-30-2004 21:01:50  
Jake: I might go with DOT5 did you notice any sponginess after you switched over?



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