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Request for help with wire feed welder

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Tom in TN

07-27-2004 23:48:51




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My son bought a Century wire feed welder at TSC for a gift for me. It is a 115V welder that does not have the MIG attachment feature on it. I'm not a welder, but I have done a fair bit of stick welding over the years and can usually do a pretty good job on simple projects. I cannot get this new welder to do anything.

It uses .030 flux core wire. It has four voltage settings and eight wire speed settings. It has a chart showing the recommended voltage settings based on the gauge of metal to be welded.

When I attempt to stike an arc, the wire just disintegrates as soon as I touch the metal to be welded. The melted wire attaches itself to the metal in the form of little balls. The metal that I'm trying to weld seems to be unaffected by the weld except that it now has little balls of melted wire attached to it. I've tried higher and lower voltages and all eight of the wire feed speed settings, but to no avail. I can't maintain a constant arc no matter what I try.

Any advice?

Thanks,

Tom in TN

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COUNTRYBOY

07-28-2004 19:50:03




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 Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to Tom in TN, 07-27-2004 23:48:51  
PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. TURN EVERY KNOB AND WELD ON ALL THE SCRAP U CAN FIND. THAT'S ALL IT TAKES. ONCE U GET THE HANG OF IT YOU'LL THROW ROCKS AT A STICK WELDER. HAVE FUN



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Tom in TN

07-28-2004 15:45:38




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 Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to Tom in TN, 07-27-2004 23:48:51  
All,

Thanks for the advice and comments. I checked the wire to verify that it really is flux core. I checked the polarity jumpers and verified that they are set for wire only, not MIG. I have not yet looked into acquiring the MIG stuff. I was hoping that I could by without it.

I'm going to keep messing with it, especially with wire speed as you guys suggested. I hope I can master this thing. I know that they are supposed to be really good for light work. I've seen guys weld exhaust systems up in no time using them.

Thanks again for your help.

Tom in TN

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T_Bone

07-28-2004 22:53:59




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 Re: Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to Tom in TN, 07-28-2004 15:45:38  
Hi Tom,

I'm not familuar with that particular machine and only giving general suggestions.

I think your missunderstanding the instructions.

GMAW (Mig) on the Century machine can either be flux core wire (innershield) or solid core wire with a cover gas. Both are the Mig welding process! So set your machine to the Mig mode.

If the machine is set-up correct then post back and I'll give you some items to check that will cause your problem.

T_Bone

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John K

07-28-2004 07:38:11




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 Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to Tom in TN, 07-27-2004 23:48:51  
Does that machine have a way to change polarity, my Millar 135, you have to change polarity when going from gas welding to flux core welding.



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Keith-OR

07-31-2004 21:12:19




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 Re: Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to John K, 07-28-2004 07:38:11  
Hey John how do you like your small machine. One thing I would like to know does you welder have the wire spool and feed, extrenal of the control box. I have the oportunity to pickup a miller at the local salvage yard, but it is missing the lead. Was curious on how good your works.
Thanks Keith



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Eddie Petty

07-28-2004 04:22:12




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 Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to Tom in TN, 07-27-2004 23:48:51  
...kinda sounds like you're using solid wire instead of flux cored !!!



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Bus Driver

07-28-2004 08:35:40




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 Re: Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to Eddie Petty, 07-28-2004 04:22:12  
I agree. Check the welding wire. That would be one of the first things to check. My Century is setup with the solid wire and shielding gas. It works well. I use Lincoln 250 amp DC stick machine for heavier things.



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jake

07-28-2004 14:31:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to Bus Driver, 07-28-2004 08:35:40  
If you have the 125 Century it is adaptable to gas feed, both models have gas valves in the handle. The gas connector is behind the white plug upper left rear. The gas kit, preset regulator, gas line is available from Clore Automotive the 1 800 number in the manual. With gas the polarity will require switching the copper bars under the cover. A nice machine under powered for .035 wire.



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Pat Dalberg

08-08-2004 12:58:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Request for help with wire feed we in reply to jake, 07-28-2004 14:31:03  
My Miller wire feed came with a large spool with a wide adaptor that went on the shaft.I needed to replace the old wire and the new roll is smaller and can go directly on the shaft but it moves too much.Is there an adaptor for it or do I need to always use the large spool with the wide center opening?It's 030 wire flux core.
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P Dalberg



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Buck

07-28-2004 03:17:46




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 Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to Tom in TN, 07-27-2004 23:48:51  
Hi Tom, first thing keep it simple. Check the drive roll tension. A good way to check for proper drive roll tension is take the wire feed gun in your right hand point it at your left hand with a lot of angle (no glove on your left hand) and pull the trigger if the wire bounces off your left hand and does not stall the drive roll tension is most likely OK if not crank it down some more! This might be the problem. Or, way to much voltage and not enough wire speed. Hope this helps

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Doug/Ont

07-28-2004 02:17:59




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 Re: Request for help with wire feed welder in reply to Tom in TN, 07-27-2004 23:48:51  
You might want to speed up your wire feed, to the heat setting you have chosen for the metal your working on. I am not an expert and have limited knowledge on the subject, but this has happened to me, and this is what I found. I had to play with both settings to get mine to work right. You might want to address this topic to T-BONE on this forum he is the most reliable source of info that I've seen. Good Luck

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