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Rolling large metal hoops

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Carl Reitnauer

07-15-2004 17:16:25




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I have a chance to subcontract building some 5 foot metal rings from 3 inch channel.Are there plans to build something to do this or a kit? A hand machine would do great.




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Adam B.

07-16-2004 21:33:34




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 Re: Rolling large metal hoops in reply to Carl Reitnauer, 07-15-2004 17:16:25  
My dad got his hands on an old hand-crank hoop machine from an Amish wheel maker. It has two cast iron sides, with the drive roll between. Each side has teeth cast in for a moveable block with an idler roll to rest on. The teeth prevent the idler roll from being pushed away by the material, but it can jump teeth the other direction to allow you to change to a smaller radius while you're working. It's apparently intended to be bolted to a bench.

When he got it home, we built a station for it to mount on out of channel iron (we can lay stock in the channel and pry it up into position), and just high enough to be comfortable to work with. Caster wheels on the bottom of the legs allow us to move it around as needed. He also happened to have an electric motor with a 90-degree reduction gearbox already attached. He mounted that underneath the channel and used a couple of chains with different gears to get the power to the drive roller and slow it down even more.

I agree with the others -- you'll need a really hefty machine to bend channel. Can you get your hands on something 5' in diameter that you could use as a pattern to bend the channel around? If so, you could gather up a bunch of clamps and a torch and get the job done. Find a way to clamp the end of your channel to your 'pattern', then start heating the channel and slowly bend it around, pinning it in place as you go. When you get to the end, tack weld it and you should be in good shape. Just a thought.

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carl

07-16-2004 18:45:29




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 Re: Rolling large metal hoops in reply to Carl Reitnauer, 07-15-2004 17:16:25  
The one machine I saw was hand, with a 5-6 foot handwheel. Trust me I'd prefer power,but I'm fishing to see what is out there. Still open to ideas or a source to buy. THANKS!



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j-tex

07-16-2004 06:43:31




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 Re: Rolling large metal hoops in reply to Carl Reitnauer, 07-15-2004 17:16:25  
carl. i built a small "hand" ring roller for rolling rings and such. 1/2 sq tube, 1/2 rod, 1x1x3/16 flat is pretty tough. i dont think you will be able to bulid anything hand that would even come close. the unit i built is out of very heavy channel and solid stainless rollers and the stuff mentioned above puts a good strain on it.
i tried a joint of 1" sq that i just needed a small arc in and it would not touch it. but it woeks great for the small stuff.just my .02 good luck

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DL

07-16-2004 17:22:57




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 Re: Re: Rolling large metal hoops in reply to j-tex, 07-16-2004 06:43:31  
I would have to agree with you... we have a small roll at work that we use to roll LIGHT sheet metal with. The amount of force required to roll a strip of 16 gage is considerable... our machine won't even touch 10 gage. The amount of force required to roll channel would be phenominal! I don't think 10 men could roll 3" channel into a 5' dia ring... unless ya hotted it up real good first!!!



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